Using firefox but concerned now

Read about some alternatives:

Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I use FireDragon, because it’s the only browser I could find that has a vertical tab-bar that collapses. Supposedly Zen does it, too, but I couldn’t get it to work.

    FireDragon also has a toolbar to the side with a notepad and other neat stuff. I haven’t used that yet, but it could be cool.

  • InvisibleRasta@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Waterfox is based on esr, so quite outdated. Just use librewolf and some css. You have firefox-one that will make it look pretty and similar to zen. Zen is no good if you care about privacy.

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    Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.

    Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished

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      Same. I’m not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.

      I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they’ve pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i’m going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it’s Mozilla.

      That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n’t) changed.

      Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.

      RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers

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        3 days ago

        I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I’ve used for 25+ years and I appreciate the “login anywhere and get your same setup” functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.

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          You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it’s really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation

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    I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.

    Edit: just installed librewolf. it’s super clean and I’m glad I got it. replaced firefox almost instantly.

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        Have you tried enabling webgl, which by default is disable on Librewolf? You can do that by overwriting the corresponding setting, as it can be done for any Librewolf setting, in particular the webgl override needed is:

        defaultPref("webgl.disabled", false);
        

        If you do, Librewolf recommend using the extension “CanvasBlocker” given the fingerprinting allowed by webgl. There’s a settings doc BTW…

  • Comrade Beşkufd@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Safari, because I don’t care about which specific browser I should use, neither wasting my time lookin for alternatives, but zen and brave really caught my eyes these days

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    3 days ago

    Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there’s not sufficient backlash.

    The addon is AdNauseam. It’s an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks ads in addition to hiding them.

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      Ubo prevents ad resources from being loaded, not loading / rendering ads at all makes a major difference in battery and bandwidth usage in my experience. Most notably bandwidth usage drops by %90 in most extreme cases.

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    I use Mullvad Browser. It’s maintained in coordination with the Tor Project, and is essentially the Tor Browser with Tor itself stripped out. Same browser fingerprinting protections, however, among other things.

    EDIT: I’d like to clarify that this has nothing to do with my trust in Mozilla or Firefox itself, especially not concerning recent panics about benign changes. I still use Firefox on the side, it just does not have fingerprinting protections by default, and hardening it manually leads to minor differences between user configurations (even with Arkenfox if that’s still around) that is solved by Mullvad Browser for me. I use Mullvad Browser for my main browsing, and Firefox for specific exceptions. Firefox itself is fine, and no, Mozilla is not burning it to the ground.

    • huquad@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?

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        Well, the hardening, just as with Tor Browser, does break some sites. It comes preinstalled with NoScript and uBlock Origin, the former of which you will either have to learn how to use or disable, depending on your wants for privacy. While it doesn’t include some of the anti-features of base Firefox, it is still based on Firefox so it will have similar performance for similar tasks.

        Personally, I use Mullvad for most of my browsing, and Firefox for a few specific things (like staying logged into site long-term and such).

        It’s available as a flatpak via Flathub for an easy installation, otherwise you can check https://mullvad.net/en/browser/linux for distro-specific installation instructions.

        • CatZoomies@lemmy.world
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          Mull Browser != Mullvad Browser. Just to be clear. I’m adding this context because your reply was regarding a thread on Mullvad Browser, and you replied with details about Mull.

          For anyone else reading this comment: Mull browser is from DivestOS and deprecated. Firefox fork. Mull was forked by the community into IronFox.

          Mullvad Browser is still alive and kicking, developed by Mullvad the VPN provider. Developed in partnership with Tor Browser, also a fork of Firefox.

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              No prob at all dude! I just wanted to add the additional context in case some other persons stumbled upon these comments, were confused, and so they can get some more information on different browser options out there. Candidly, I only learned about Mull vs Mullvad Browser this week when I was researching what non-chromium browser to switch to next.

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    Zen for regular activities (I pin all important services), Firefox for browsing for something else.

    GNU IceCat is also amazing as concept, but generally unusable since it ends up blocking too much and manually allowing everything is a hassle. But still, the pages that work are clean, and I love that by default the browser doesn’t do anything without your permission - it doesn’t even connect to update and telemetry services, it has 0 connections on startup, unlike almost anything (qutebrowser does the same, but, unless you are a strong Vim fanboy, you won’t like the experience).

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    Right now I use mainly Firefox, not because I like it but because it comes with my distro (whereas LibreWolf requires Flatpak) making it work well with the PWA project and it supports weird hacks necessary to install Widevine on my system so I can listen to Tidal. I also have LibreWolf installed with data set to delete on close and set up to proxy over Tor and I2P using privoxy and has LibRedirect installed which is set up to redirect to the corresponding onion/i2p domains. I was trying to install Zen Browser using the Guix package manager earlier but had problems, but I might try again later.

    On Android, I use Vanadium for sites I stay logged into, Cromite with auto clearing history for other stuff, and Ironfox for Kagi and to use plugins like LibRedirect.

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    Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.

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    4 days ago

    Librewolf (I love the privacy) Tor browser (To browse onion sites/View webgl websites or privacyintrusive sites)

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        3 days ago

        There is a search engine for it and sometimes from my friends/youtube it isn’t super hard to find onion sites (if this is what you mean)

  • arsCynic@beehaw.org
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    Zen as main driver because of its features that are on par with Chromium-based Vivaldi browser, and LibreWolf on “older” machines or systems that require stability/consistency. Both are awesome to me. On Android plain Firefox remains pleasant to use, but open to suggestions.