• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    15 hours ago

    Most countries should be all over LLMs

    Whether people want to admit it or not. AI will be the thing that takes the next step in most areas of influence. It’s literally the next industrial or atomic revolution. Just because there is an AI bubble and the companies around it are doing all they can to bail out the water of a sinking ship doesn’t make the actual tech itself bad or stupid.

    That said all systems are corrupt. This whole capitalism vs socialism shit just exposes anyone who thinks that way as an idiot. It’s not red vs blue , it’s not an is or isn’t sort of thing.

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      8 hours ago

      It’s literally the next industrial or atomic revolution.

      /s?

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        4 hours ago

        Imagine thinking a breakthrough in protein folding is a joke.

        Do you understand how computers work or why they were ever useful? Or just make pretty color box light change?

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          4 hours ago

          Protein folding isn’t LLMs. You forgot to format your motte and bailey fallacy properly.

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            4 hours ago

            What does that first L in LLM stand for?

            You realize math is exactly that right? A language?

            I know you probably felt like a big gotcha cause you tried to move away from the term AI or AGI since they’re not true artificial intelligence. But at it’s core it is doing really really big math.

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              3 hours ago

              What does that first L in LLM stand for?

              Large.

              You realize math is exactly that right?

              A large?

              Protein folding is not done with an LLM.

              I know you probably felt like a big gotcha cause you tried to move away from the term AI or AGI

              No I was using your terms

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                3 hours ago

                Man you got me there.

                If you can’t understand how computers are used to create a model of something and doing big math makes that better nobody can help you.

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                  2 hours ago

                  We had that before AI. Where’s this industrial revolution in concrete terms: specifically without having to say “if” or “when” or pointing out anywhere past a few weeks into the future for it

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                    49 minutes ago

                    No we did not.

                    Computers gave us calculators and suddenly we had rockets. Then we made them smaller and went into space. They became prevalent and we got automation. They connected and we got the Internet.

                    All of that merged together and made something that became very good at making models of anything with strong predictive capabilities because it can now run massive computing sequences logging immense variables regular people and even advanced computers before could not. You get our ability to understand protein folding, human behavior, economics and aspects of geometry we couldn’t.

                    Are you expecting AI and then suddenly a bunch of change? The industrial revolution started in the mid 1700s, it wasn’t until over 100 years later did we have full on industrial style warfare and electricity use became more common in everyday use(still to this day not everywhere has electricity). The understanding of nuclear energy started at the break of the 20th century but it wasn’t until 60/70 years later that it was common.

                    AI as a breakthrough tech only really started 16 years ago and already it’s established itself as a fledgling key tech. I’ll bet you $500 the majority of technological advancement ahead of us will be tied to AI - it has already impacted how we diagnose people, accelerating understanding of drugs through it’s ability to understand protein folding and drug discovery. It’s given scientists the ability to expand our visual understanding of the universe and weather with it’s predictive capabilities, and it’s also threatening to advance automation to an insane level where we might have actually decent robots to perform human tasks.

                    Look at the combine harvester for instance. Almost 200 years old, came from the industrial revolution, took teams of animals to pull, advancements allowed it to be fueled with oil, then the introduction of computers made it manage itself, satellites allowed more precise control, now it’s reaching a point where it can even monitor the health of the field for you and require such a minor amount of human interaction compared to it’s original introduction. That’s fucking insane. We might have a means to grow food that require almost no human involvement.

                    You’re being intentionally obtuse over this because I think you just don’t like the tech.