Hey all, please don’t even think of replying here with suggestions for actual IPTV providers, just DM me if you’re willing to make a suggestion. Otherwise, let me know if the below situation is normal.

Long story short, I’m new to IPTV and looking for one that does US sports. I just got semi-scammed (at least, misrepresented) by a provider I found on one of the forums.

I spent most of my trial period struggling to get a VPN to work (and thought I did). Then I paid for six months, which was dumb as shit.

I picked up PIA to replace Mullvad, since that one has an Apple TV client and I’m Mac/iOS/tvOS. That broke IPTV on all devices. And why? Because these guys block VPNs due to “other IPTV provider want to steal our streams from their servers” broken English BS excuse that I can’t even make sense of. What does one thing have to do with the other?

They want me to use their VPN, which is based on either Outline or Surfboard (the second doesn’t even have a website). On Mac, that would mean using Tunnelblick to run their custom config file. The best part is:

In the chat, I asked what I should do on Apple TV. That’s when they ghosted, since they have my money now. And then came back to say “Oh, actually we DO allow VPNs, it’s your ISP that’s blocking them.”

So how come I can go anywhere and do anything on PIA, except use IPTV?

I’d love to know if that situation is abnormal. Am I right that streaming a bunch of IPTV using some rando’s config file (or in the clear) is batshit? This is all on the high seas so I gotta use a VPN, right? Am I just misunderstanding the technical issue due to the language barrier?

Experienced IPTV sailor perspectives welcome 🏴‍☠️

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    7 months ago

    Get a Xiaomi TV Stick/Box and forget about using Apple for IPTV/VPN stuff, good luck.

    • Algernon@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      7 months ago

      That’s not on the menu. The only question is if it’s expected that I wouldn’t be able to use a VPN with IPTV or if it’s just these guys.

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        7 months ago

        You can use IPTV WO a VPN, but I don’t recommend it, depending on which country are you in it could be dangerous or not.

        If you want to be able to pirate freely you should avoid Apple devices.

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          Yeah, this isn’t quite the direction the thread should go in, since I’m using the stuff I’m using. And no offense, but with 30 years on the seas, it’s pretty lol to hear “don’t use Apple if you want to pirate freely.” I appreciate the heads up about VPNs though!

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            7 months ago

            Waah, the answer isn’t the one I wanted. Boo hoo hoo. I’m sure you’ve been pirating on iOS for 30 years and must know better.

            • Algernon@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              Hahaha you guys are so low-info! I’m a Mac and Apple user and that triggers you? Amazing. Would you like me better if I was sucking down telemetry and ads on Windows and Android, or do you need me to be straight up Linux desktop? 🤣

              Just let me know, I’ll sell all my shit 😉

              I expected way better from the Dbzer0 piracy sub, but I guess TIL you folks just want to shitpost. Literally I come in here and say “Apple” and the thread derails.

              Now I’m wondering why I even made an account on db0. I can scroll Lemmy memes from anywhere and that’s the only other thing this platform is good for.

              Hell, looking back through this sub’s last couple weeks, nobody in here has said dick about shit. What a shame, where are the decent posters at?

              I’ll tell you what. Give me a few days to figure out a solid Mac and iOS workflow for IPTV and I’ll come back and post it. So that way, this forum can have one piece of useful info.

              As for you my man, study hard.

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                Triggered indeed, mister indignant wall of text. I use a Mac too. And Linux, FreeBSD, Android, and even Windows. But using an iOS device to pirate is like using a wrench as a hammer. Maybe you can do it, but it’s not ideal.

                Anyway, if you don’t like it here, there’s the door. Deuces.

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                  Weird, once I got my provider to stop blocking my VPN (I learned that some do) and/or switched to endpoints my ISP doesn’t block known IPTV ports on, I’ve had no issues. Apple TV, mac, iphone, all of them. Everything flawless.

                  I might even take my seedbox down and torrent locally, since that’s easier. A full Apple pirate workflow, aside from my NAS.

                  I liked the parts in your post where you dropped in various operating systems you’ve used to make the words you were typing look more factual. Have you pirated on BSD? That would be intense!

                  For me, I think I’ll stick around. I genuinely enjoy making fools look foolish — and now that I know fools are in season here (and are overpopulated) I’ll get my real info elsewhere and focus on the fun part. Cheers!

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    6 months ago

    Aren’t premiunize and realdebrid mentioned in the wiki? I heard of them so many times… Never used them tho. They should work with VPN, or so I thought. And you can pay with paysafecard to be safe about scammers.