• 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    totally anecdotal… but i’ve installed debian on a bunch of different machines and i’ve never had to “prepare additional installation media” for any weird hardware/firmware/drivers… i just installed the base system and connected ethernet if any non-free stuff is needed. has anyone ever come across an ethernet interface that didn’t work out of the box? maybe it didn’t work 100%, but at least good enough to download the proper firmware to fix?

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      Some wifi drivers. It’s because of the Debian philosophy of never using non-free (as in speech, not beer) software.

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        Thats why i said you just need a few minutes on ethernet… Although i can see the problem these days with a lot of laptops shipping without ethernet ports

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          1 year ago

          These days Debian ship with non-free firmware in the default installer, so laptops without ethernet isn’t a problem.

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    1 year ago

    As an arch user myself, I have to agree. This is eerily true. I love and hate arch for what it is. Just don’t leave your laptop in the closet without updating it every few months. It’s pretty certain that you have to reinstall arch if you wait too long.

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      This is how not to use Arch… Update at least once a month, or if not maybe at least twice a month. If you can’t handle the updates on Arch then consider switching to something like Debian…

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        It’s not like I cannot handle the updates. I really love arch for its flexibility, and with that come bleeding edge updates. Fedora is the next best thing but I’m definitely not as experienced there and it’s quite often lacking packages that arch does provide, either via its mirrors or the AUR