They’re talking to me. I use Mint. I’ve never opened the terminal. Just because some of us aren’t savvy doesn’t mean we aren’t at least casually interested. You could totally be joking too, I guess.
I still don’t get why Mint with it’s legacy Cinnamon desktop is recommended to new Linux users. Even Debian stable with a modern Gnome or Plasma desktop would do more justice to the growing FOSS ecosystem. Or go with Fedora which I recommend to all Linux/FOSS-newbs.
This is a meme, but my strong opinion at the same time. Go with Mint/Cinnamon as long as you like; you’ll make your own experiences and it is part of Linux/FOSS, too.
Because mint is familiar. The GUI and most of the keyboard shortcuts are similar to windows. The install is quick and easy, and for the most part everything will just work and be similar to what they’re used to.
Some people just want to be able to turn on their computer and do stuff without having to get used to a whole new UI.
Man, your attitude is why Linux is still so fringe. That purity test shit is a real turn off.
For a casual user like myself, all that matters is my computer boots, is navigable and runs programs that do what I need. Mint/Cinnamon does that. It does it with no fuss. And every time some great FOSS warrior comes along to tell me it’s not Linux enough I like it even more. I’m not interested in distro hopping, at all. To be really honest, I’m not interested in my computer. I just use it.
Thx, sometimes I forget that. But I don’t get what you mean by “purity test shit”. I am not that “I use Arch, btw.” kind of person, I just have a strong opinion about what is user friendly. Maybe I voice it more here than I would in RL. When someone with no idea about what’s suitable I recommend what I use, because then I can help better. And I recommend what they usually get out-of-box with no extensions, because then they can get help from others with the same default setup.
Maybe this attitude comes from my struggle with other desktops than Gnome. The Terminal is the only universal thing between all distros and desktop environments. Package managers don’t differ that much these days.
And yes, I agree, distro or desktop environment hopping is not a thing a user should need to do in order to be comfortable with their computer.
I am a Gnome person, like others are MacOS or users of the Windows UI paradigm. Even in the time when I used a fork of dwm to create my own tiling window manager rice, I used a lot of Gnome/GTK apps. I am now back on Gnome with the PaperWM extension and I am in my happy space. I think, it is the positive enthusiasm (spelled wrong, I know) that drives my attitude, too. This can be overwhelming and could lead to things others don’t want on their computers. I could try to dial it down. So, thx again for reminding me.
I still don’t get why Mint with its legacy Cinnamon desktop is recommended to new Linux users.<
Now, we’re not fighting, but I need you to see what you did. This right here is just a milder version of what I had to sort through just to get started. I started using Mint before I came to Lemmy, and Reddit’s Linux subs are just as helpful, forgiving and accepting as the community here. Long time users are snarky, snobby and honestly not very helpful. It’s not just Arch users. It was like Muscle Beach, but digital. Just flexing, no help at all. Then a user suggested that Mint would be a painless transition and they were right. It worked on the first install and within an hour I had Thunderbird opening my email, Blender set back up just like I had it on my poor dead windows 10 desktop, had my slicer. I haven’t argued with anything. I’ve never opened the terminal. That’s why Noobs are often pointed to Mint. And I won’t leave it without a mighty good reason. My computer gets used for some of my hobbies, but computers quit being a hobby for me nearly 30 years ago.
Non-technical readers? In my Linux memes community??
They’re talking to me. I use Mint. I’ve never opened the terminal. Just because some of us aren’t savvy doesn’t mean we aren’t at least casually interested. You could totally be joking too, I guess.
It’s a joke, yeah. Well, or rather a meme. This was a real advertisement, before it got memed on pretty hard:
Actually …
I still don’t get why Mint with it’s legacy Cinnamon desktop is recommended to new Linux users. Even Debian stable with a modern Gnome or Plasma desktop would do more justice to the growing FOSS ecosystem. Or go with Fedora which I recommend to all Linux/FOSS-newbs.
This is a meme, but my strong opinion at the same time. Go with Mint/Cinnamon as long as you like; you’ll make your own experiences and it is part of Linux/FOSS, too.
Not using WindowsOS/MacOS is a very big step for them and FOSS
so please don’t care that much about distros :) and see the bright side: They are not using WindowsOS/MacOS
Because mint is familiar. The GUI and most of the keyboard shortcuts are similar to windows. The install is quick and easy, and for the most part everything will just work and be similar to what they’re used to.
Some people just want to be able to turn on their computer and do stuff without having to get used to a whole new UI.
Man, your attitude is why Linux is still so fringe. That purity test shit is a real turn off.
For a casual user like myself, all that matters is my computer boots, is navigable and runs programs that do what I need. Mint/Cinnamon does that. It does it with no fuss. And every time some great FOSS warrior comes along to tell me it’s not Linux enough I like it even more. I’m not interested in distro hopping, at all. To be really honest, I’m not interested in my computer. I just use it.
Thx, sometimes I forget that. But I don’t get what you mean by “purity test shit”. I am not that “I use Arch, btw.” kind of person, I just have a strong opinion about what is user friendly. Maybe I voice it more here than I would in RL. When someone with no idea about what’s suitable I recommend what I use, because then I can help better. And I recommend what they usually get out-of-box with no extensions, because then they can get help from others with the same default setup.
Maybe this attitude comes from my struggle with other desktops than Gnome. The Terminal is the only universal thing between all distros and desktop environments. Package managers don’t differ that much these days.
And yes, I agree, distro or desktop environment hopping is not a thing a user should need to do in order to be comfortable with their computer.
I am a Gnome person, like others are MacOS or users of the Windows UI paradigm. Even in the time when I used a fork of dwm to create my own tiling window manager rice, I used a lot of Gnome/GTK apps. I am now back on Gnome with the PaperWM extension and I am in my happy space. I think, it is the positive enthusiasm (spelled wrong, I know) that drives my attitude, too. This can be overwhelming and could lead to things others don’t want on their computers. I could try to dial it down. So, thx again for reminding me.
I still don’t get why Mint with its legacy Cinnamon desktop is recommended to new Linux users.<
Now, we’re not fighting, but I need you to see what you did. This right here is just a milder version of what I had to sort through just to get started. I started using Mint before I came to Lemmy, and Reddit’s Linux subs are just as helpful, forgiving and accepting as the community here. Long time users are snarky, snobby and honestly not very helpful. It’s not just Arch users. It was like Muscle Beach, but digital. Just flexing, no help at all. Then a user suggested that Mint would be a painless transition and they were right. It worked on the first install and within an hour I had Thunderbird opening my email, Blender set back up just like I had it on my poor dead windows 10 desktop, had my slicer. I haven’t argued with anything. I’ve never opened the terminal. That’s why Noobs are often pointed to Mint. And I won’t leave it without a mighty good reason. My computer gets used for some of my hobbies, but computers quit being a hobby for me nearly 30 years ago.
It’s more likely than you think.