I mostly agree with the sentiment of this video, but it’s highly biased I feel. On a utilitarian level, everything Muta is criticizing about Windows is absolutely valid. But even as a very experienced desktop computer user, as someone who does not have coding experience or any formal education in the technical side of computing, there are parts of Linux that just cause me to get hung up. If you’re someone who likes to customize deeply and change a lot of really small stuff, you run into rocky patches very fast. Now, I agree that almost anything is possible on Linux, but it’s about the amount of effort it sometimes takes.

For the average user, when they want to change some seemingly basic features, things that aren’t in the settings, eventually, one way or another, you have to use commands. You have to use the terminal for something or other. Some dependency, some change that needs a command to activate. And even if all of that is wrong, and you technically CAN change or acquire everything you need without ever opening the terminal, the problem is that a new user is not going to be able to find a simple answer in a few minutes.

Even with the help of AI, it can still take a long time to troubleshoot what may seem like a basic issue. And like it or not, that matters if you’re trying to get people to switch. People, realistically, can’t be expected to always just “shut up and do the research”. Anyone who’s not a techie, or someone with a lot of patience, is going to run out of gas for this troubleshooting very quickly. I wish I had more suggestions about how to actually fix these problems, but I know that for me they are the main reason I can’t permanently switch from Windows at this point. We’re getting closer, but there is a long road still ahead.

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    It quite literally is a barrier to entry. That is what “barrier to entry” means. It is something that prevents potential users from giving the OS a serious shot. Literally my closest friend is an example of this. After a lot of convincing, I talked them into installing Linux Mint on a separate partition. I guided them through the process and asked them to use it as a daily OS for a week. They did so, and came back to me with essentially the same complaints I laid out in this post. They work as a digital artist, and needed to install Photoshop. They looked up guides, watched YouTube videos, but told me that they just couldn’t figure it out in a timely enough manner to allow them to get the work they needed to do finished. Could they have figured it out with more effort and time? Absolutely. But this is what I’m describing, something that in theory should be simple, is a lot more complicated for a user who is unfamiliar with the process. This doesn’t make most people motivated to just read through tutorials and forum posts and long processes for how to set up Wine, or what have you. It makes them want to just go with something that works without the headache. That isn’t entirely Linux’s fault, obviously Adobe refuses to create a native version. But to someone who has only used Windows, it’s technical, complicated process.

    I don’t know if the goal being to increase the number of users who switch to Linux is a majority opinion or not. We would need to see a poll or some kind of data. I didn’t say it was a religion. You’re right, people that want it will find it. But let’s not pretend that there’s no incentive for it to grow. You don’t create something and make it publicly available without caring if anyone uses it, that isn’t how that works. At least not in the case of an OS. Linux growing and becoming more widely accessible is an objectively good thing. The bigger the community and userbase gets, the faster the barrier to entry comes down, the simpler it will be to do these things that Windows only users see as complex. If you’re going to say that this is all complaining and that this is just how it has to be, you’re following the mindset I’m criticizing. I think a big focus in Linux should be streamlining things like Wine, or other tools that require a lot of manual user setup.

    Equating the desire to help as many users as possible have easy access to what we all believe is a superior OS, to “spreading the message like cancer” sounds a lot more like a zealous, religious doctrine than what I’m advocating for.

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      After a lot of convincing… dude. That is totally shoving it down their throat like a religion. YOU and your zealotry are the far bigger barrier to entry.

      Leave the poor guy alone. If he wants an OS, he will seek it out on his own.

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        Brother you literally have no idea who I am or who my friend is, and you’re gonna sit here and lecture me on forcing an OS down their throat? You are literally creating a fantasy in your head and pretending it’s reality. My friend WANTED to try Linux, he came to me asking about it and I agreed to help him. He was unsure of it and at first didn’t even want to try, he expected the whole install to be a headache.

        Imagine if you had a kid who wanted to learn to ride a bike. At first, they fall over again and again and want to quit. They say they’re never going to learn. But you keep trying to show them why it’s worth it. That’s essentially what was going on with my friend.

        Keep telling yourself I’m somehow the problem, though. The one who actually tried to introduce a new user to something they want to like.