AugustWest

Been using fedora on a laptop for a year with no command line intervention.

I don’t mind the command line, but it has been uneccesary.

Almost all maintenance tasks and fixes on windows come back to the command line. So I have no idea why people keep bringing it up about Linux.

I got blocked by someone here for the same idea that I thought was balanced: it is a useful tool, it makes it easy to share how to do something.

That’s it. Use it if you want, or don’t, but it’s not a negative thing. And I too don’t advocating sitting up at night reading man pages or anything…

You blocked me over a difference of opinion?

Wow.

All I am trying to say it that it is a tool in the toolbox. Telling people Linux needs it is not true, telling people it’s bad is not true.

Quit trying to make it a negative. I would encourage anyone to explore how to use this tool. And when trying to communicate ideas on the internet it is a very useful one.

I have never blocked anyone, I find that so strange. It’s like saying because of our difference on this issue, we could never have common ground on any other.

And you ask me to remember my humanity?

lose sight of their humanity

Ok this is now a stupid conversation. Really? Humanity?

Look, you can either follow a flowchart of a dozen different things to click on to get information about your thunderbolt device or type boltctl -list

Do you want me to create screen shots of every step of the way to use a gui or just type 12 characters? That is why it is useful. It is easy to explain, easy to ask someone to do it. Then they can copy and paste a response, instead of yet another screenshot.

Next thing you know you will be telling me it is against humanity to “right click”. Or maybe we all should just get a Mac Book Wheel

Look, I am only advocating that it is a very useful tool. There is nothing “bad” about it, or even hard. What is the negative?

But I also said, I have been using a Fedora laptop for over a year and guess what? I never needed the command line. Not once.

Why do people keep saying this? If you don’t want to use the command line then don’t.

But there is no good reason to say people shouldn’t. It’s always the best way to get across what needs to be done and have the person execute it.

The fedora laptop I have been using for the past year has never needed the command line.

On my desktop I use arch. I use the command line because I know it and it makes sense.

Its sad people see it as a negative when it is really useful. But as of today you can get by without it.

Lol, yep. It’s always funny to see xfce as being light weight.

Is this where I continue the meme and say I use arch by the way?

On the other hand KDE discover… Yikes. The software manager uses as much memory as XFCE.

The surprising thing is that KDE would run on there just fine too. If you don’t add all the PIM stuff, it’s almost a wash in memory usage and just as snappy.

KDE. Been upgrading the same environment for 5 years just keeps getting better.

I started around maybe KDE 3?

Why would it? It’s a photo editing tool, not a drawing tool.

sshfs also works across the internet…quick and dirty file access from anywhere in the world.

I almost said that. It was my first thought. But then the people discussing it seemed kind of focused on local networks so…

I am not sure what to say, but maybe use something that already has done the work for you? I set up Open Media Vault 20 years ago and it has SMB shares built in. Ran it for 15 years with little to no intervention on my part.

Also, highly recommend keeping documents of how you set things up, including a link, if not a copy of the guide and the how and why you did what you did when making your own server. We do it on enterprise systems, I do it on home systems (if building from scratch).

tvOS app

Ah, I have never messed with that. Of course Apple makes it hard, lol.

What is missing? I have had no issues with it.

But you can use Steamlink as a remote desktop tool too. I do it all the time with my steamdeck in desktop mode.

I know this is just an example, but it is kind of funny.

User somehow sets up SMB shares on their network. Then is confused by the client?

this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros)

sshfs only works on certain distros? Oh you mean the apt install part.

the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.

I just browse to the network location I want and right click on the view in the file manager and select “add to places”. It will be there on the sidebar until I remove it. Yes it is there after a reboot.

In the old days we just used X over SSH (xforwarding) and only sent the single application over, no desktop need by running on the host (well technically client as X is backwords).

I know the user experience difference is ridiculously bad trying to remote into Linux.

It isn’t. There are lots of tools for this, including using RDP. It is really easy actually. It is a graphical front end tool on KDE.

The “bad” part is that the user must already be logged in and the desktop opened because that is how linux works.

Speaking of modern: I usually just use moonlight for streaming and sunshine for hosting between machines that are on the same network because it is so simple and available in Fdriod for Android devices. You can share apps or the desktop.

You CAN configure wake on lan and run a script to auto log in a user (with moonlight) if you wanted to use it with a machine that is off, but I can agree that that is a few extra steps.

Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.

We had icecream.

The funny thing is, every laptop I have does suspend without issue. I think for a brief period in 2014 I had a problem with a Zen book, but it got fixed.

As of today, in this office right next to me now: A chromebook, an HP and a Dell. All 100% linux laptops, all suspend. I did not have to do anything to make that work, it just did.

I always avoid Ubuntu, for whatever that’s worth.

Actually there is one funny thing: I picked up a laptop with Windows on it for a user going to a conference. It will not suspend. When you close the lid the fan just goes full blast and it is a space heater. We re-imaged it and it still does it. We just power it off now. It is a dell.

How was the gnome registry some how worse? Microsoft didn’t even have a document that could describe how theirs worked, much less an organizational structure. At least Gnomes was basically simple words and categories. And they built a settings manager for it too.

Not that I use gnome much, but still this is silly.