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  • Fizz@lemmy.nztoLinux@programming.devWhy do some people hate Manjaro?
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    9 days ago

    I am defending Manjaro not because I think its a top tier distro that people NEED to use but only because I think the criticism is overblown and its becoming dogma and it needs to be pushed back. I also do not like seeing users who would be fine on the distro are pushed away with scary warnings. There are very few distro choices that new users would pick that would actually be a bad choice, the ones I would say would be Kali and Arch. The rest are fine. Remember when a user asks hey I wanted to try out this distro call Manjaro it seems good and there is like 100 comments making it seem like the stupidest most dangerous choice and recommending a slew of other options they’re probably less likely to suddenly trust that advice and more likely to just stay in the comfort of what they are already on.

    For the Manjaro defense I only find 3 instances of their SSL failing and they seem to be for non critical subdomains on the web. Its avoidable but its a mild inconvenience with no critical impact. During my search I see that a ton of the biggest tech companies in the world have had the same issue multiple times on actually critical domains and other distros have had the same issue. Its an SSL cert expiring its like one of the most basic fuckups in IT and it catches everyone thats why a whole industry got made out of products that fix the problem.

    The other thing people bring up is the AUR DDos which sounds bad but reading through the AUR bug thread it didnt seem to be a big deal and it had happened multiple times before from bugs in aur helpers. Its software this shit happens, it happens everywhere at every level. Why are we holding a mid tier linux distro with probably 10k users to the standards of apple/microsoft (who have all had similar issues and far far bigger fuckups).


  • Its pretty common knowledge so I dont feel like I need to cite battery life comparison videos.

    Laptop manufacturers do a lot at the driver level to optimise battery life. In linux most laptops are using 3rd party drivers with very few having vendor support. This plus windows having a more mature power saving system.To top it off CPU sleep states dont work as well as on windows because vendor did not put the effort in.

    Theoretical linux could have better battery life if the manufacturer supported its drivers we see this with the legion go s windows vs linux and the steamdeck windows vs linux.







  • Its fine. If you read through the complaints people list they’re pretty petty. The most common complaint is people dont like that its arch based but doesnt follow the arch release schedule. Which is fair but only affects people who use the aur.

    The main positive IMO that manjaro has that other arch based distros miss is that it tries to be fully featured out of the box instead of trying to ship a very light arch install. This means a lot of things work out of the box that need to be installed and configured on other distros.

    The negatives is that new users are attracted to it and they dont know how to use linux so they break things and dont know what went wrong or how to fix it.





  • The benefit to me is that snaps update as soon as the patch is pushed and they sandbox better than flatpak. Its also easier to maintain a snap from a dev perspective (idk if thats true I just read it on some fourm)

    I prefer flatpak because i like the name and flathub better but the development has kind of stagnated and a lot of their benefits are non existent. Flatpak sandbox is kind of a meme at the moment because most apps ask for way to many perms just to work.


  • My windows 10 install broke itself after running an overnight update. I tried to fix it using the Microsoft tools and stuff I read online and ended up needing to do a fresh install. I couldn’t recover the windows activation key.

    At the time I’d been listening to the WAN show talk about their upcoming 30 day linux challenge. So I thought fuck it why wait until that comes out to see if linux is good. I shouldn’t have to re buy a license for an operating system that just killed itself.

    And I picked mint. It was an absolutely horrible experience, nothing worked out of the box and I spent at least 5+ hours troubleshooting display, WiFi and drive mounting. I got it to s point where I was happy and I could do what I wanted. Then decided to try out some other distros. Tried endeavour, it was broken out of the box. Tried Ubuntu and realised I do not like gnome. Tried garuda it was ok but ugly and WiFi didnt work. Tried arch… Did NOT know enough to get a nicely working system. Then I tried Manjaro and it had a nice clean KDE plasma setup out of the box everything worked, updates were lighting fast so I stayed on that for a year and loved it.

    When the 30 LTT linux video came out I was shocked by how bad their experience was. For me I had a working system minus a few bits of hardware not working and software was pretty easy to install and worked very well. I was also mad that Linus uninstalled his GUI and then blamed linux dude you ran that command without reading it. Thats day 1 shit you learn. You have some responsibility to know your system.