Don’t ask TF2 player how they feel about this meme

Oh cool! Let me just spend three weeks crawling through wiki articles, setting flags in the config files, and patching out 15 different issues with various drivers then installing 20 dependencies compiling them all from source.

Hyperbole, but yeah no thanks I’ll take the L on some optimization and 2gb of storage space and some wierd file system locations for files to load a flatpak if old stable doesn’t cut it. you might want to be careful recommending gentoo to people they might not know better. Most Linux nerds don’t want to open that can of worms, but good for you if it works.

I use gimp for pixel art for game textures and to make memes. It has tons of features that nobody knows about becuase they’re fucked by horrendous UI. But theres never been anything I needed to to but couldnt after looking up a tutorial on the internet. Valid points against gimp but lets not pretend people used to photoshop arent also kind of stuck in their old workflow habits and unwilling to relearn new software UI.

Theres photogimp but it hasn’t been worked on in a while.

Also also, most people who use gimp on linux probably did so on a stable distro like Mint installing with default package manager. This means their experience with gimp is from a terribly old outdated version. Flatpaks have some issues but being able to easily install the most current version of software like gimp or kdenlive is night and day difference.

Oof bad guess. my daily driver is a used t460 made in 2015 running Mint. I said that used librebooted thinkpads are a great option to inexpensive preinstalled Linux machines. Are you sure you replied to the right person? Or are your reading comprehension skills fucked? Either way better luck next assumption

Except all those Linux specific privacy/modularbility orientated PCs are expensive as hell with base models starting close to 1k last I checked. They’re aimed at the demographic of cushy tech nerds making bank tapping at a keyboard who care about opsec or right to repair and can comfortably afford dropping 1k on a new laptop without thinking twice about if that money has better uses.

I and many others who don’t live in economic lah-lah land will NEVER be able to justify 1k spent on a laptop just because it has physical kill switches or modular parts and preloaded with a good Linux distro. These companies need to touch grass and come down a couple hundred dollars to the 400-500$ range then we can talk. Until that day comes, the guy selling librebooted thinkpads on eBay running popos or mint is the better option for those who live with the reality of not having a lot of money.

If your lucky she might be into it leading to some really nerdy gamer BDSM

You always have the option of partitioning some free space on your hard drive and dual boot windows along side Linux Mint until you’re 100% confident in erasing windows from the drive. When I first got started with it years ago I had similar fears that something would go wrong with the process or there would be driver issues or I wouldn’t be able to start my favorite software. So I dual booted windows on my laptop for about a year until I realized I hadnt needed to use windows at all.

Hell yes! Scream it from rooftops with your menthol laced breath. The celestial calendar fortold that 2025 would truly be the year of the linux ™ the time is now!

What do you think so far?

How does SteamOS hold up as a daily driver compared to Mint? I always imagined its like a souped up version of steams big picture mode. Is it a good desktop enviroment that comes with ways to manage files and make web app shortcuts?

You can’t just show sackboy and littlebigplanet in the thumbnail. you gave me hope it would be an article about how mediamolicule is back and lbp4 being announced. I gave up consoles after the ps3 but if theres one exclusive that could rope me back in it would be that. Fuck Sony you had one good series that I would love to bond over with my kids and you let it die a slow horrible death. If you played your cards right you could have had a game series that rivaled minecraft itself for popularity amongst everyone.

Great meme post! This comment section is a scorching hot dumpster fire that beamed carcinogens directly into my retinas. Thanks I hate it.

Photoshop cs2 is free to download and probably works well on wine as its old as hell.

Edit: Correction. You used to o be able to download cs2 from adobe website. This is no longer the case.

GIMP has always been able to do what I needed more or less. Its got a learning curve and sometimes I still dont 100% how something works but for basic photo editing, meme making, and converting photos to different file types (why is .webp not universally supported yet?) Its pretty good.

When theres a problem doing something in GIMP it always felt like the issue was my own understanding of the toolset conbined with not-great documentation being given. I never felt like I encountered the limits of the program itself.

I’m sure if you are a professional graphics person who needs advanced tools theres things only PS can provide and its user interface is probably more friendly. But for me, the average joe schmo, GIMP gets the job done 95% of the time with little to no headache.

Thats good info for low spec laptops. Thanks for the software recommendation. Need to do some more research on the model you suggested. I think you confused me for the other guy though. Im currently working with a six core ryzen 2600 CPU and a RX 580 GPU. edit- no worries we are good it was still great info for the thinkpad users!

Thank you thats useful to know. In your opinion what context size is the sweet spot for llama 3.1 8B and similar models?

Thanks for the suggestions. Updated the post with the list.

Linux Mint cinnamon is gold standard for quality IMO. All my modern systems that can comfortably run it do.

That said it also uses more resources than your old craptop may like depending on just how old we are talking about.

If cinammon is a little slow, try mint xfce. Its a lot lighter on system resources. Last time i tried xfce it was a great performance compromise if a little unpolished in places.

If Mint xfce is also too slow you can give MX Linux a whirl. Its way faster and more minimal that mint out of the box. Yet it feels modern and allows you to install all the same programs as mint from the default software repo including flatpaks. MX fluxbox is probably as minimal as you would want to get. Try their flagship xfce first.

If you are trying to beat new life into a 25 year old dying dinosaur Puppy Linux will do it, but you won’t enjoy using it.

The worms are back again. Gotta dig out out Microsoft’s parasites with a screw driver.

They were there from the beginning, check the template it’s been untouched since first upload. The only edit I made to the image since was better cropping. I intended for those white strips to be coke lines. Its a small detail but if you zoom in you can see some extra white on the nose lol. Why I added it to the character. Definitely smoking a joint still with that bud

“decent speed” depends on your subjective opinion and what you want it to do. I think its fair to say if it can generate text around your slowest tolerable reading speed thats a bare minimum for real time conversational things. If you want a task done and don’t mind stepping away to get a coffee it can be much slower.

I was pleasantly suprised to get anything at all working on an old laptop. When thinking of AI my mind imagines super computers and thousand dollar rigs and data centers. I don’t think mobile computers like my thinkpad. But sure enough the technology is there and your old POS can adopt a powerful new tool if you have realistic expectations on matching model capacity with specs.

Tiny llama will work on a smartphone but its dumb. llama3.1 8B is very good and will work on modest hardware but you may have to be patient with it if especially if your laptop wasn’t top of the line when it was made 10 years ago. Then theres all the models in between.

The i7 6600U duo core 2.6ghz CPU in my laptop trying to run 8B was jusst barely enough to be passing grade for real time talking needs at 1.2-1.7 T/s it could say a short word or half of a complex one per second. When it needed to process something or recalculate context it took a hot minute or two.

That got kind of annoying if you were getting into what its saying. Bumping the PC up to a AMD ryzen 5 2600 6 core CPU was a night and day difference. It spits out a sentence very quick faster than my average reading speed at 5-6 t/s. Im still working on getting the 4GB RX 580 GPU used for offloading so those numbers are just with the CPU bump. RAM also matters DDR6 will beat DDR4 speed wise.

Heres a tip, most software has the models default context size set at 512, 2048, or 4092. Part of what makes llama 3.1 so special is that it was trained with 128k context so bump that up to 131072 in the settings so it isnt recalculating context every few minutes…