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  • Solumbran@lemmy.worldtoLinux@programming.dev•Hammers Without Handles
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    5 months ago

    Like it or not, Windows is the dominant operating system. And it’s not even close. That means when we’re having a conversation about designing a User Experience on Linux-based operating systems, that conversation must be bookended by “how do Windows users expect this to work?” And we need to design for that or else everything falls apart.

    Yeah the basis of the whole logic is bullshit.

    This guy is doing the OS equivalent of the left parties trying to be less on the left, to appeal to the far right. It doesn’t work and just ends up with the shit propagating and everyone getting used to it and lowering their standards.







  • I don’t disagree with anything here.

    But my point wasn’t “there’s nothing to worry about”, it was “an age field is the minimum they can do, and blaming them for it is pointless”.

    My point is that this law is already there, and the fight needs to be brought where it matters, and the code of linux systems is not what is going to change politics. When someone is held at gunpoint, you don’t yell at them to fight back and curse them when they don’t, but you attack the attacker.


  • As I said, it’s a loss. It is not going to bring anything good, and can only bring bad stuff.

    But my point is that the alternative of ignoring this law would just worsen the situation.

    If you want to fight a law, you need to do it with meaningful measures. You find flaws, you revolt, but you don’t just ignore the law and hope to not be attacked for it.

    If a big linux distro does it, it will lead them to endless legal battles that will ruin them, and then what?

    The strategy here is to accept the loss, mitigate it as much as possible, and attack the source, which is politics, governments, and popular support and understanding.

    Explain to people why it’s bad, burn down the government, and fix the system. If we only fight the symptoms when they target us, we’ve already lost.


  • And what would refusing a field do?

    What needs to be done is basically a revolt against current governments and capitalism, not nitpicking every privacy-invading law that comes, and then waiting patiently for the next one to come.

    You’d rather put a big target on linux systems for stupid fucks to label it as “the big danger for our kids” which would just bring nothing good.

    You want to stop taking hits, then stop waiting for them and then pretend that dodging is the only solution.


  • It could be a slippery slope. That’s why the point is not to just accept it and move on, but to comply while pushing back against it.

    And complying right away, but with a bullshit field, is a good way to signal “we do not agree, and we’re going to always find a way to fight back”.

    Taking a hit to avoid defeat, does not mean surrendering. It just means that you need to recognise when a battle is lost. In a way, the other side of the slippery slope is the sunk cost fallacy, where you refuse to admit that something is a lost cause and you keep on pushing, making things worse.

    It’s a matter of balance and reason, which people nowadays reaaaally struggle with.