Yeah, the reason we don’t have those isn’t technological. We could have it today if we collectively decided that we wanted it.

People who start with preconceptions based on labels can still be swayed. It just becomes an uphill battle of figuring out what they think the label means and dispelling those before getting to the meat of the discussion when you can instead just start on the meat.

The debate will probably go somewhere if people took a moment to think about why murder is bad and why choice is important, then consider why that would or wouldn’t apply to this specific scenario.

The issue is in finding buyers who have enough money to spend on those luxury goods.

Ethics/civics would only be useful if you saw this as a possible outcome. Most of us are just looking to solve problems and make everyone’s lives easier.

You know what else takes far less energy than training a single model? One query. Yet, you argue that it’s the main contributor to the energy consumption. Why is that? It’s because there’s a very high volume of them, thus bringing up the total energy consumption. At the end of the day, it’s this total energy consumption that matters, not the cost of doing it once. Look at the total energy expenditure of training, not just the cost of doing it once.

So, it’s kind of weird t0 single AI energy use out here as some form of exceptional evil.

We’re talking about AI here because that’s the topic of this thread. I’ve never seen anyone say that it’s the only problem worth addressing. Plus, if you want to compare energy usage of ads (or anything else) compared to AI, you would first need to know how much energy AI is actually using.

Training is a continuous expenditure. We’re nearly ten years into this craze and we’re still continuously pumping out new models. Whether they’re trained from scratch or not is immaterial. Both processes still consume energy. If you want to justify the claim that training cost is negligible, you would have to show that this cost is actually going down over time and that it’s going down sufficiently quickly.

It doesn’t look like that energy consumption blog post account for the cost of training the model. Otherwise, it should be telling us how many queries/sessions are assumed to be run over the course of the lifetime of a model.

I like to keep to the same routine when possible. Birthdays and holidays interrupt that. No good. I can’t do much for holidays, but since my birthday is supposed to be my day, i can demand this from everyone around me.

With no additional context, if you said that “the balls in this glass are generally blue”, I would interpret that meaning every ball falls within the range of hues that can still be called blue by most people but may be questioned by a few. So 100% of the balls have to be “I can see why someone would call that blue”.

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So, did you do it?

Cloud housing when?

I’m familiar with udev rules. But it’s going to be more effort to write something that works with everything I might connect to than it is to just run xrandr each time. The way it is right now, it never fails and I don’t have to spend more than a minute tinkering with projector settings when I give a presentation.

Multi monitor has never been more reliable for me than it is on Linux. The downside is that it’s not automated and I need to connect/disconnect them through the terminal.

So when you say “I believe in objective morality”, you mean that you believe morality should be objective, not that it is objective. I’m inclined to agree because that would certainly simplify life a lot, but unfortunately, you can’t just make morality objective any more than you can make gravity not exist. It is what it is, and we have to figure out a way to work with what we have.

So morality is relative in a society that doesn’t have a proper moral framework?

I think you missed the “indirect” part. This isn’t someone going around stabbing people. It’s someone who goes obstructing people from getting medication or medical treatment that they need, or from acquiring food, or someone who indiscriminately gets people fired from their jobs and put on the streets where they’ll die a slow death.

Regarding solitary confinement: As an individual, you don’t have the power to detain someone in that manner. But you do have the power to kill.

Any honest conversation about a situation will end up with two people, happily or not, having to admit there’s one path more moral than others

You don’t say that they agree on which path is more moral than the other, but I’m assuming that’s what you mean. But also, no, that doesn’t happen. In an honest conversation where you disagree on morals, you just learn that you both have different values.

There are some things that more people are likely to agree on, like your example about stealing a towel from a hotel. But there are also many that people vehemently disagree on. For example, is it morally right to kill someone who has (and will continue to) indirectly kill many of other people?

If the upscaler was trained on data that contains that exact patch in other contexts, it’ll theoretically be capable of upscaling it properly.