You make it look like old Nvidia cards are the only reason X11 is held around.
Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.
There are plenty of instances of similar things happening here and there, and currently, ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.
Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.
X11 applications still run under XWayland. The X11 session is gone, not all compatibility with X11 applications. Steam wouldn’t run if complete removal was the case.
What’s Omnissa’s stance there? Will they port their application? Will they hire a developer to maintain a X11 session?
ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.
Are these users hiring a developer to maintain the X11 session? If not, they need to adapt then and go with the times and migrate to other solutions. RustDesk supports Wayland just fine, for example.
Somehow with XWayland enabled, the app still specifically demanded an actual X11 session
I guess it’s because Horizon can probably act as a host to control the desktop and as client to control other desktop. The latter should work with XWayland, the former not. As I wrote: RustDesk works just fine. What RustDesk doesn’t currently offer with Wayland is unattended access. The desktop that’s about to be remote controlled gets a question to confirm remote access, at least under Gnome.
My somewhat educated guess is that it’s more likely that Gnome’s permission system gets a “always allow remote access” button before a X11 application gets a Wayland port when the decade until now a Wayland port was no priority.
You make it look like old Nvidia cards are the only reason X11 is held around.
Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.
There are plenty of instances of similar things happening here and there, and currently, ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.
X11 applications still run under XWayland. The X11 session is gone, not all compatibility with X11 applications. Steam wouldn’t run if complete removal was the case.
What’s Omnissa’s stance there? Will they port their application? Will they hire a developer to maintain a X11 session?
Are these users hiring a developer to maintain the X11 session? If not, they need to adapt then and go with the times and migrate to other solutions. RustDesk supports Wayland just fine, for example.
Somehow with XWayland enabled, the app still specifically demanded an actual X11 session
They promise it will be done, but they already moved the dates several times
Migration would be great, but it’s not sometching an individual employee can do of an employer uses what it uses.
I guess it’s because Horizon can probably act as a host to control the desktop and as client to control other desktop. The latter should work with XWayland, the former not. As I wrote: RustDesk works just fine. What RustDesk doesn’t currently offer with Wayland is unattended access. The desktop that’s about to be remote controlled gets a question to confirm remote access, at least under Gnome.
My somewhat educated guess is that it’s more likely that Gnome’s permission system gets a “always allow remote access” button before a X11 application gets a Wayland port when the decade until now a Wayland port was no priority.