(I’m just trying to learn. No hidden mockery in this and this is no gotcha bs aimed at t women. I’m NOT transphobic. Just saw this in a debate and wanted to know other people’s thoughts)

I just want to know:

  1. Is this factually correct?
  2. If it is, does it matter? Why or why not?
  3. How would you logically respond to this?
  4. How does this statement not contradict with Trans Women are Women
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    23 hours ago
    1. Yes
    2. It matters if you want clear definitions. People here will probably get mad over my definitions if I further lay them out.
    3. You know those movies/cartoons/web comics where the main character guy wakes up as a girl one day and then starts freaking out like a freaky friday? Or perhaps he immediately starts checking out his own body naked in the mirror? Well that person just became a trans man/boy.
    4. Trans refers to the brain. ‘biologically male/female’ refers to reproductive organs.
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      22 hours ago

      I don’t like the brain argument tho it’s bioessentialist and trans medicalist

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        9 hours ago

        Well then, how does according to you, transsexualism occur other than in the brain?

        Because if I watch Ranma 1/2 and I see Ranma Saotome transform into Ranko Saotome,
        I imagine that his body transforms into the cursed girl except for parts of the brain that doesn’t involve motor skills,
        but does involve memory and personality.
        Otherwise he’d be the cursed drowned girl with all her memories and her personality and Ranma Saotome then no longer exists unless the drowned girl is transformed back.

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          9 hours ago

          Judith butler goes more into this but it’s more just that a person feels happier a certain label. It’s as simple as that. They associate more with certain social nuances. It doesn’t have to be biological.

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            9 hours ago

            Association, actions based on social nuances, feelings, those all happen in the brain.