1. The whole of Germany shall be declared a united, indivisible republic.

  2. Every German who is 21 years old shall be a voter and be eligible for election, assuming he has not been sentenced for a criminal offence.

  3. Representatives of the people shall be paid so that workers may also sit in the parliament of the German people.

  4. Universal arming of the people. In future armies shall at the same time be workers’ armies so that the armed forces will not only consume, as in the past, but produce even more than it costs to maintain them.

  5. Maintenance of justice shall be free of charge.

  6. All feudal burdens, all fees, labour services, tithes etc. which have previously oppressed the peasantry shall be abolished without any compensation.

  7. All baronial and other feudal estates, all mines, pits etc. shall be converted into state property. On these estates agriculture shall be practised on a large scale and with the most modern scientific tools for the benefit of all.

  8. The mortgages on peasant farms shall be declared state property. The interest for these mortgages shall be paid by the peasants to the state.

  9. In the areas where leasing has developed the ground rent or lease payment shall be paid to the state as a tax.

  10. All private banks will be replaced by a state bank whose bonds will have the character of legal tender.

  11. All means of transport: railways, canals, steamships, roads, posts etc. shall be taken in hand by the state. They shall be converted into state property and made available free of charge to the class without financial resources.

  12. In the remuneration of all civil servants there shall be no difference except that those with a family, i.e. with greater needs, shall also receive a larger salary than the others.

  13. Complete separation of church and state. The clergy of all denominations shall only be paid by their own voluntary congregations.

  14. Limitation of inheritance.

  15. Introduction of strongly progressive taxes and abolition of taxes on consumption.

  16. Establishment of national workshops. The state shall guarantee the livelihood of all workers and provide for those unable to work.

  17. Universal free education of the people.

These are the 1848 Demands of the Communist Party in Germany, Marx and Engels.

  • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev
    2·
    7 months ago

    There’s definitely some issues that jump out to me on first read.

    1. I’m not sure about “indivisible”. An area should be able to self-govern if desired. More detail needed.
    2. Awful. Removing people’s voting rights in general is bad, and something as nebulous as “a criminal offence” is incredibly easy to abuse. Are people no longer citizens if they steal a loaf of bread? Also, voting age here is 16/18.
    4. No. Guns are incredibly rare where I am. I’d rather not have one, and I’d prefer not to risk getting shot every time some asshole on the street gets mad.
    7. Limiting land to a single use is generally not a great idea. What if for instance you have too much agricultural land and not enough housing?
    10. A central state-owned bank isn’t a bad idea, but abolishing all non-state banks is iffy. Should the government really have so much direct control over everyone’s finances?
    12. Your salary should not be based on the amount of unprotected sex you have. That’s just silly. Other support should be available for those who need it.

  • livus@kbin.social
    1·
    7 months ago

    Surprised to see that even Marx and Engels wanted to disenfranchise the prison vote. There’s a strong classist element to that.

  • shrugal@lemm.ee
    1·
    6 months ago

    Why stop half way? All you need is a benevolent dictator, shouldn’t be too hard to find, right?

    Some of these points are good, some are just absurd. Letting “the state” handle everything and hold all the cards, and then actually believing that it won’t be coerced and corrupted or that there won’t be strong disagreements about how to handle things is just delusional and wishful thinking on a grand scale imo.

    I agree that most modern countries need to strenghen the public sector, but you still need checks and balances between powers, individual responsibilities and freedoms, real-world economic feedback and incentives, and so on.

      • shrugal@lemm.ee
        1·
        6 months ago

        Because that’s what creating an all-powerful government leads to. Imo the key is splitting up and balancing the power, not concentrating it in one easily corruptable entity.

          • shrugal@lemm.ee
            1·
            6 months ago

            united, indivisible republic

            So no federalism anymore, just one centralized state power.

            All baronial and other feudal estates, all mines, pits etc. shall be converted into state property

            The mortgages on peasant farms shall be declared state property

            All private banks will be replaced by a state bank

            All means of transport: railways, canals, steamships, roads, posts etc. shall be taken in hand by the state

            So the state owns and manages all land, all finances, all infrastructure, and all means of mass transportation, on top of all the things the state controls already.

            Idk what you think centralization of power looks like, but imo this is it.