You sit outside on a cold street with just a blanket at 3am when your life has fucking disintegrated and tell me alcohol and drugs are pointless, you daftie
I didn’t say that doing drugs is pointless. Assisting homeless people buying drugs IS, because it does the opposite of helping to get out of that situation, which is the point.
Who are you to decide what they’re allowed to buy? You’d rather have someone go hungry on the off chance they might buy something you don’t agree with?
It’s ultimately an assessment done in a case by case basis. Another example: will you give money to a relative who will use it for gambling? Helping someone turn around their life and enabling their habits are different things.
That’s the point of the original comment and you are bullshitting “how dare you decide what they buy!”. They own the money and they decide that they won’t spend money to improve a homeless person life if it won’t improve it.
The point is to help this person temporarily alleviate a problem they have, whatever that problem may be. If you don’t want to do this, fine, but if you’re only willing to give money if they use that money in ways that you deem wholesome, that’s patronising.
help this person temporarily alleviate a problem they have
And you mean drinking fucking alcohol lmao. Yeah it’s gonna made them feel better for a minute, sure, lol. And fuck them up even worse after that. It’s like giving drugs to drug addicts, wtf.
in ways that you deem wholesome, that’s patronising.
No onre said “wholesome”.
If so, trying to help honeless people is “patronozing” then generally. Goverment is “partonizing”. Organizations that want to help them are “patronizing”.
My opinion is no. They can then use it to buy drugs or alcohol, which is unfortunately likely.
Maybe you could donate to some homeless shelter?
Or maybe, you could try asking if you could buy them some food instead.
Housed people buy drugs and alcohol. Unhoused people buy drugs and alcohol.
Why is it so much more evil for the latter?
Some nuance - nobody is freely giving housed folks money to buy drugs and alcohol either.
I’ve received gift cards to liquor stores before.
That’s cool! I’m willing to bet that’s outside of the norm for most folks. If y’all want to prove me wrong I’ll happily provide a venmo ;)
It’s not evil, it’s pointless
You sit outside on a cold street with just a blanket at 3am when your life has fucking disintegrated and tell me alcohol and drugs are pointless, you daftie
I didn’t say that doing drugs is pointless. Assisting homeless people buying drugs IS, because it does the opposite of helping to get out of that situation, which is the point.
Who are you to decide what they’re allowed to buy? You’d rather have someone go hungry on the off chance they might buy something you don’t agree with?
It’s ultimately an assessment done in a case by case basis. Another example: will you give money to a relative who will use it for gambling? Helping someone turn around their life and enabling their habits are different things.
If my relative wants to gamble with the 2 Currency that I’ve given them, okay then.
Buying them some food I think is the compromise here.
If you’re already standing in front of a food cart, I suppose.
Who am I to decide what my money is spent on?
Giving another person money usually implies the transfer of ownership of that money to that other person, unless otherwise specified.
I think people have the right to do that conditionally
Sure. And depending on the circumstances the conditions might not make you look like a very nice person. Which you are of course free to ignore.
It just won’t help them improve their lifes
And? That’s not the point.
That’s the point of the original comment and you are bullshitting “how dare you decide what they buy!”. They own the money and they decide that they won’t spend money to improve a homeless person life if it won’t improve it.
The point is to help this person temporarily alleviate a problem they have, whatever that problem may be. If you don’t want to do this, fine, but if you’re only willing to give money if they use that money in ways that you deem wholesome, that’s patronising.
And you mean drinking fucking alcohol lmao. Yeah it’s gonna made them feel better for a minute, sure, lol. And fuck them up even worse after that. It’s like giving drugs to drug addicts, wtf.
No onre said “wholesome”. If so, trying to help honeless people is “patronozing” then generally. Goverment is “partonizing”. Organizations that want to help them are “patronizing”.
The problem is that you are convinced they’re going to buy drugs. You do not know that person, it is not your place to decide that.
No, I do not agree that simply offering help is patronising.
wtf?!? Is this Lemmy?? How did this comment get more likes than dislikes? I’m gonna post the same thing and see what happens.