Pop!_OS' COSMIC Desktop May See a Fedora Entry
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A Fedora COSMIC Desktop variant? Sounds so cool!
  • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This would be awesome. Fedora has really been one of the best distros lately, hopefully they don’t get fucked by Red Hat in the future.

      • LeFantome@programming.dev
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        9 months ago

        There used to be a Linux just called Red Hat Linux. It was run by Red Hat obviously but a community built up around it.

        Fedora was literally created by RedHat and staffed to be the “community” distro. They did this so that they could be “corporate” with Red Hat Linux ( now called Red Hat Enterprise Linux ).

        I find it funny when people say that Red Hat is going to try to take away the community in Fedora and use their corporate behaviour in RHEL as an example. They literally created them both. The whole point of Fedora is to be community driven.

        Fedora is a lot like RHEL in most ways but absolutely not a competitor to it. More of a testing ground. This is all by design.

        Where things went wrong for them is that somebody created a bug for bug clone of RHEL. The story was that the clone would be a “community” but that is bonkers because ( by definition ) the clone cannot deviate from RHEL. It cannot innovate. It cannot modify or contribute code ( not even fix bugs ). So, it was just a zero cost version of RHEL. The whole reason for creating Fedora was to prevent that.

        Anyway, Red Hat likes Fedora and WANTS it to be “free” and anybody that understands the history knows why.

        In fact, the problem is somewhat that Fedora is not allowed to get too corporate. You will notice that Fedora is one of the staunchest distros with regards to including potentially patented codecs and such for example.

      • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        No, they only fucked CentOS, and they made RHEL proprietary last year. Since Ubuntu’s decline, Fedora basically took it’s place. It’s very stable but not extremely outdated, has great security, always supports the newest technologies like Flatpak, Wayland, Pipewire, etc., has good Desktop spins and constantly innovates. The next Fedora KDE release will even completely drop support for X11, which is a good step because it forces developers to adopt Wayland. They also have pretty good immutable spins like Silverblue, Kinoite and others. Other cool distros like Nobara and uBlue are also built on top of Fedora.

        • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
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          9 months ago

          Its not really proprietary. Developers get the code, and everyone that gets the binaries also gets the code. Thats GPL compliant.

          • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            To quote Software Freedom Conservancy:

            For approximately twenty years, Red Hat (now a fully owned subsidiary of IBM) has experimented with building a business model for operating system deployment and distribution that looks, feels, and acts like a proprietary one, but nonetheless complies with the GPL and other standard copyleft terms.

            • LeFantome@programming.dev
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              9 months ago

              To quote both of you “nevertheless complies with the GPL and other standard copyleft terms”.

              Were you trying to prove his point?

              • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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                9 months ago

                Obviously they comply with the GPL, otherwise they would get sued. But Red Hat acts exactly like a proprietary software company. That’s what the quote is trying to say.