I have been using KDE for a while, while I like many features I am looking for suggestions to the default email client:

Kmail - completely unusable for me and the only one which could maybe be integrated with kontacts, it could not receive mails from IMAP or pop or would receive only sometimes

Geary - good but too minimal, I need at least some kind of contact list and mailing lists feature, maybe this integrates with gnome contacts? I couldn’t find anything in settings

    • Novaling@lemmy.zipEnglish
      103·
      5 days ago

      I have no idea if Betterbird is actually better than regular Thunderbird, but I use that cause people said so and I read about it a bit. If it does die I guess I’ll switch to Thunderbird, just a little cautious about Mozilla after the privacy policy fiasco.

      Betterbird is in flathub too which is great for newbies like me.

    • janbaumy@lemm.eeEnglish
      81·
      5 days ago

      I second this! It seems to have more features than Thunderbird while being just a fifth of the file size.

      I can‘t confirm this, but I have read elsewhere that Thunderbird is a bit bloated.

      • Pirata@lemm.ee
        53·
        5 days ago

        Aren’t you concerned that the development is in the hands of just one guy?

        • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
          8·
          5 days ago

          Not the above poster, but for me: it’s a slight concern but AFAIK the profiles are interchangeable so it’s pretty trivial to just switch back to Thunderbird if anything does happen.

            • janbaumy@lemm.eeEnglish
              5·
              5 days ago

              That‘s not how it works. The mails are not stored on BetterBird servers (there are none). Your mails are stored on your E-Mail providers server (like Gmail) and downloaded to your local client via IMAP or POP3.

              The developer of BetterBird does not have access to any of that.

              • Pirata@lemm.ee
                51·
                5 days ago

                Oh, understood. Dumb me, lol.

                So, aren’t there security risks associated with using Betterbird?

  • cohete@lemmy.world
    14·
    5 days ago

    If your into Linux and a decent admin. Nothing is better than neomutt. Add not much.

    Filtering and searching is faster than Google on gigs of mail.

    It will take a long time to configure it well. But it’s worth it. I rarely change the config.

    I have been using Linux since 1992.

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlMEnglish
      5·
      5 days ago

      still of Obi-wan Kenobi in Star Wars with subtitle "Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time."

      At first i thought, wow, cool they’re still developing that? Doing a release or two a year, i see.

      I used to use it long ago, and was pretty happy with it.

      But looking closer now, what is going on with security there?! Sorry to be the bearer of probably bad news, but... 😬

      The only three CVEs in their changelog are from 2007, 2010, and 2014, and none are specific to claws.

      Does that mean they haven’t had any exploitable bugs? That seems extremely unlikely for a program written in C with the complexity that being an email client requires.

      All of the recent changelog entries which sound like possibly-security-relevant bugs have seven-digit numbers prefixed with “CID”, whereas the other bugs have four-digit bug numbers corresponding to entries in their bugzilla.

      After a few minutes of searching, I have failed to figure out what “CID” means, or indeed to find any reference to these numbers outside of claws commit messages and release announcements. In any case, from the types of bugs which have these numbers instead of bugzilla entries, it seems to be the designation they are using for security bugs.

      The effect of failing to register CVEs and issue security advisories is that downstream distributors of claws (such as the Linux distributions which the project’s website recommends installing it from) do not patch these issues.

      For instance, claws is included in Debian stable and three currently-supported LTS releases of Ubuntu - which are places where users could be receiving security updates if the project registered CVEs, but are not since they don’t.

      Even if you get claws from a rolling release distro, or build the latest release yourself, it looks like you’d still be lagging substantially on likely-security-relevant updates: there have actually been numerous commits containing CID numbers in the month since the last release.

      If the claws developers happen to read this: thanks for writing free software, but: please update your FAQ to explain these CID numbers, and start issuing security advisories and/or registering CVEs when appropriate so that your distributors will ship security updates to your users!

  • n2burns@lemmy.ca
    7·
    5 days ago

    IMHO, you should consider doing more troubleshooting on Kmail. I’ve never used it personally, but from my understanding, it’s a stable program and shouldn’t have problems doing the basics of email, like you’re reporting.

    • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      The problem of kmail is the underlying subsystem that is evertything other than stable.

  • Giddy@aussie.zoneEnglish
    81·
    5 days ago

    Every time I look around for a new mail client I come back to thunderbird. Nothing else ticks all the boxes

  • 8adger@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    5 days ago

    I have used Evolution in the past. It was very Outlook like and did a decent job talking to Exchange. Now days i just use the web interface.

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    4 days ago

    Kmail, Thunderbird, Evolution. That’s pretty much it.

    There’s always some weird niche client somewhere but it won’t be a hidden gem. Although I guess you can always use Pine (or rather Alpine nowadays) if you want to appear ubergeeky.