I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit. I know what it means, but just wondering why such the popularity over on this side of the fence?
Cause it’s one big part of why the Fediverse and Lemmy exist in the first place.
We wouldn’t need all this decentralization overhead if centralized sites were trustworthy and focussed on serving their users. The fact that they are not is what leads to privacy violations and enshittification, hence why people created the Fediverse and why we are here (at least most of us I presume).
Remember when things were better, before all the enshittification ? Pepperidge Farms remembers
Selection bias. Lemmy users by default are probably more sensitive to/negative about enshittification than those on reddit.
Many of us came here in response to the enshittification of reddit.
The term “enshittification” is a useful neologism because without it we’d need half a sentence to get the same concept across.
I’d argue most of us are older but not too old to remember what the internet was as well.
Yeah you’re probably right. It surprised me how many people my age are here but it does make sense because we’re the generation that enjoyed a less corporate internet.
What age is that 30-40?
Because it perfectly embodies one thing the Lemmy hivemind hates the most about how large, for-profit corporations tend to behave
Because the Fediverse itself is a response to enshittification.
This is it exactly. We simply have too many examples of why we cannot trust millionaire maniacs with running a platform…
Because most people on lemmy are here because of it.
I’m only here because I’m pissed at the enshitification of elsewhere. Of course Imma talk about it.
I think it’s just everywhere now. I see it on Tumblr too.
It’s because we were given a name for something that didn’t have a name before but was everywhere.
This is a great thing. With a definition we can understand and discuss the topic.
If you think this didn’t have a name before, then you may need to read up a bit on the history of capitalism.
It’s rent seeking.
Gotta love linguistics
Language is magic. Some electrical impulses cause a bunch of electrochemical reactions in a complicated pile of meat to make air vibrate, and at a distance another complicated pile of meat turns the waves into a similar series of electrical impulses.
Of all the unlikely stuff to happen to make use… that’s still just wild…
It’s the reason we are all here…
It lets ppl describe late capitalism without using those words or even knowing that’s what they’re describing.
Were stuck Don’t Look Up style in a cycle of trying to find a way to explain and enumerate the things happening around us without pointing to their precursors even when we remember them from our own lives and experiences.
This is the correct answer. These “things are getting worse” terms are on the right track, but they don’t describe why things are getting worse.
Class-based systems like feudalism and capitalism have overarching rising and falling phases, and in the late phases, exploitation of our labor increases drastically as the ruling classes fight over a declining surplus. This has rippling effects to every other aspect of society, from how hard we’re forced to work, to the degradation of media, art, politics, etc.
Exactly this. It is not new, it’s just a form of rent seeking.
I think it’s happening more and more in the tech industry - one theory I heard was that rising interest rates meant companies couldn’t just take out loans that were practically free money, so they’re cracking down on monetizing every nook and cranny.
Reddit was no exception. Many of us left this thing we once loved because of it, and came here. So on top of industry trends, there’s a huge selection bias among us Lemmings.
I think it’s because enshitification is just sort of everywhere now.
It’s like the weeping angels from doctor who, the moment you take your eyes off the shit waves, you’re covered in it.
Recent helldivers and tarkov controversy be like
Because “willful, profit-oriented degradation of quasi-monopolistic services” just doesn’t sound nice, so a man who’s passionate about that sort of stuff came up with a better word for the concept, and other people who are passionate about that sort of stuff picked it up. Those same people ended up leaving Twitter and Reddit when they underwent that process and congregated around the fediverse.
I’m new here but I’m here precisely because of the enshittification of Reddit.
Honestly though, now that I think about it, a huge chunk of my digital experience has been enshittified. Technology and software that used to wow me still wows me at the surface but frustrates me at my core. Some UI elements and design seem outright hostile.
Maybe I’m just misremembering the past or was more patient back then. Reddit certainly has enshittified though.
I mean at least when it comes to design it was shit in the past cause either it was being done by people who didn’t know much about design or it was something new and people didn’t know what would be a good design for it. Now it’s shit cause making it shit in certain ways let’s companies make more money.
