And now you’re lost
If this was accurate, the ropes would have snapped and Homer would go hurddling to the base of the mountain.
That’s what pacman -Syyu is for. The occasional life support failure and forced bug hunting is part of the experience.
command ‘pacman’ not found
aggressively re-pacstraps
Installing arch without archinstall is way too much fucking work. I’d much rather spend time fixing the 10% greater likelihood of encountering issues post install than doing all that fucking bullshit manually. The command line is better for a lot of things but configuring partitions and mount points is not one of them. I demand a fuckin gui for that stuff.
I’ve done it both by the book and arch install. Arch install is just nice.
This is why arches based distos are taking off. They help with picking packages etc to save time.
The rationale in the OP is that with archinstall, an inexperienced user will have no idea where to even begin diagnosing any issues post install. Whereas installing manually is sort of a barrier to entry that ensures you know what you’re doing.
That’s a stupid reason to make an installation as painful as possible. I can follow the installation wiki but I just don’t have time for this. And an inexperienced user can follow the wiki or another how-to and finish the installation but still be lost if something breaks later on.
That’s why I went with EndeavourOS - nice installer, some changes and tweaks to the default settings, but after that it uses the arch repositories and there’s no difference to arch anymore afaik.
I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.
I’ve done it, I’ve gotten the satisfaction from it, but it’s not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.
thats fine and thats the exact usecase for arch install. This meme is for people who never install it once manually and use archinstall to get a working configured system.
I’ve installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol)
My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It’s basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.
I got to where it expected me to partition the drive manually and noped out. I was doing that in the 90’s when I compiled my own kernel. Ain’t nobody got time for that today.
I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don’t think it’ll catch one.
I’m super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.
I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install
You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually
“We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people.”
People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.
“C’mon do you even linux?”
People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?
I did for a few years, finally think I’m settled on arch for desktop, but for servers, hurry is still out
Yes. About once every 2-3 months. It’s something of a hobby.
When I started out, I used to change distros like socks lol While you do have to reinstall programs, having a separate /home partition means that you can keep your stuff between changes
Archinstall made my root partition 25 GiBs the first time I ever messed around on arch. That was fun when it filled up.
Learning to properly configure pre existing drives with archinstall was an adventure on its own.
Its honestly just better to set it up yourself if you want to learn lol but archinstall is cool as an option.
yep, me too. At least I had 50GB but man, I was frustrated when I found out…
Why have set partitions. Just use LVM or BTRFS volumes…
Went with EndeavourOS instead so at least I have more than an ice cubes chance in hell of not borking my install
Honestly, I had wayyyy more issues when using archinstall than just installing it normally by the wiki. I might just be stupid though :P
I gave up and used endeavouros instead.
Installed manually first then later using archinstall. I came across an issue that wouldn’t format a partition. Saw the issue on github too. So had to format manually and continue.
Oh, you use
pacstrapandarch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had wascpandinstalland we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn’t know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.I installed arch without it and it was a fucking struggle. Didn’t know it existed til after. Like actually hours after
Installing Arch ‘the proper way’ is a pilgrimage all Linux users should take. After that, they can fly with EndeavourOS at their convenience.
I followed the wiki and pulled off a successful install… On a vm. Once I felt confident and ready I remembered arch install was a thing and thought “sure I’ll try it, it’ll definetly break and I’ll just use the wiki to install” then it worked without a hitch. I’m still running arch with no issues.
The one time I tried to manually install arch on a VM years and years ago it didn’t work and I wrote Arch off. Guess what I’m running now? Well, Cachy, but lol. It’s Arch. And guess what? It’s got a simplified install process.
