Finally making the transition from Windows to a Linux. I’m pretty sure it’s been asked several times but which Linux OS would you recommend a beginner to use? I’ve seen Ubuntu and Mint as a good start. Not looking to do much. Game here and there (not too worried about Linux compatibility), streaming, editing videos. If I break any rules. I’m sorry.

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    Don’t use Mint or Ubuntu, use Bazzite. It actually is “just works” with the added benefit of “you can’t break it”. It’s perfect for both beginners and experienced users who are looking to do work rather than tinker with their OS.

    And if you have a graphics card (which you probably do since you mentioned gaming), Bazzite comes with Nvidia or AMD drivers preinstalled, so you don’t have to do anything extra to get it to work.

    But if you really want to follow the YT influencer Linux memes, at least go with Ubuntu instead of Mint. Mint is just Ubuntu with a different default desktop, but worse in every other way less reliable (edit: toned down the exaggeration)

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      Mint is just Ubuntu with a different default desktop, but way less reliable

      I have never heard this, why?

      The default desktop is better so why not use it. Especially for beginners, the default being a better option, that’s a good thing.

      Mint is a more polished ubuntu as far as i’m aware.

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    As long as you don’t pick Ubuntu, you’re good to go!

    (p.s. not to scare you lol, if you pick ubuntu you’d be fine, just some of their decisions on where they are taking their os have been bad imo)

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    As someone who’s been in this for a while, go with Mint.

    It’s not a “beginner distro”. You can start there, you can stay there as long as you don’t develop any super niche prerequisites. Even then, Mint can probably do it.

    The developers are sane and it’s a popular system that has been in development for years with many tweaks and improvements. There’s a big community around it if you need help/guides.

    You just can’t go wrong with it.

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      It’s not a “beginner distro”.

      I would hardly disagree, that it isnt a beginner Distros. However, this does not mean that Mint is bad. It is a rock solid Distros that is focused on accessibility and being user friendly. It gives everyone who wants the ability to learn Linux/CLI while still giving GUIs as Backup if something is to complex in the command line. However not everyone wants to learn Linux/CLI and this is totally fine. For these People Mint is perfect.

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        That highly depends on what you consider a “beginner distro” to be.

        I don’t like the term, because to me, it implies that you have to emigrate from Mint to something else at some point, which is not the case.

        It’s not a distro that is supposed to teach you how to do X on Linux systems. It’s just a solid OS with a lot of features that are easily accessible, which does make it suited for starters, yes.

        I don’t think you have to or should touch the terminal at any time as a regular user and Mint allows you to not do that, as you pointed out as well.

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          I don’t like the term, because to me, it implies that you have to emigrate from Mint to something else at some point, which is not the case.

          I can totally understand where the implication comes from but I personally dont see it like that. I see it more as a measurement for how accessible something is.

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      Long time Mint enjoyer, the ONLY caveat I would put on that is I doesn’t yet have stable for support Wayland.

      For a beginner, having the ability to run android apps via waydroid could be a real draw card.

      Wayland support is coming, but it isn’t here yet.

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        If I read OP correctly, they plan to livestream games. Screen capture isn’t as smooth of an experience on Wayland as it is on X11. Which isn’t to say one can’t do screen capture on Wayland, but that it might be a point of frustration for a Linux newbie trying to stream or record their gameplay.

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          Tbh I haven’t had that issue in a while om KDE, tho TBF I don’t stream often. Screensharing on discord, meets, etc works perfectly fine tho, and I did manage to stream something with OBS.

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        I would actually rate that as a plus.

        While it’s nice to have the ability to run android apps, I don’t think many newcomers expect that.

        However, it’s much more likely to find an Nvidia GPU in there somewhere, which works notoriously badly with Wayland.

        Also Wayland has scaling issues with lower resolution fullscreen apps and settings.

        I’d rather have those things working by default.

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    Linux is linux. In the end it’s more your personal taste with just a little sprinkle of use case that decides.

    The main differences are:

    • Update speed: How quickly are the repositories getting updates. That’s a spectrum between getting cutting edge version in days or weeks or having things unchaged for up to several years. Or in other worlds you will see more bugs in freshly released software, but also bugfixes often within days. Compared to getting new feature only after years, but rarely any bugs (the very few ones that slip through… well, you will get the fix in a few years). That’s also where use case plays a bigger role. If you use very new hardware and want software that uses their newest features, a rather stale slow updating distro might not be the right fit for you.

    • Update scheme: Fixed vs. continues release. Continues releases are slowly but constantly changing over time but once installed they can basically used forever. While fixed releases are mostly just shipping critical bugfixes and security patches and doing everything else in big release steps (think in terms of Windows upgrades here: You mostly have the same thing for years but at a certain point there is a newer version that might bring changes in defaults, new pre-installed software, UI changes etc. and after a couple of years you lose support if you don’t do that step).

    Also more depending on your personal taste and habits:

    • How much are you willing or interested in tinkering? Basically all distros give you access to all software. But what is pre-installed changes, both in what is provided by default and also how much software is there already. For example do you want stuff for video editing set up already or don’t you care as you will test out all the options available anyway?

    • The same is true the basic desktop environment. Gnome and KDE are the two big ones (with some more oftens based or forked from those two). And it mostly a difference of “here is our environment exactly as we think it’s best with very little customisation” (Gnome - also the one with most forks, by people who did not agree with the Gnome devs vision) and “have fun customising” (KDE). Is customising stuff to your liking your thing? Or do don’t care and also prefer something as close to what you are used to on Windows? Again: Distros have all the options available. But some have one environment or the other pre-installed. Or they come in different flavors from the beginning. If customisation isn’t your cup of tea the decision on a certain distro matters much more.

    Other considerations:

    • Immutable distros are more on the newer end of things. They are basically designed more like for example Android. There is a base system that rarely changes and allows basically a “reset ot factory settings”, with updates and additionally installed software provided as incremental changes and/or highly containerised. That has benefits (you can revert screw ups easily) but also drawbacks (decades of available linux instructions are now worthless until you really understand where that regular config file you can’t edit anymore is now located in some separate container only used by one specific piece of software - and most people that google for such solutions don’t). Again this is mostly decided by habits. Are you expecting to tinker with your system or do you just want something that works on its own that neither you or an upgrade cannot possibly break. In the latter case an immutable distro can be the thing for you. And as always… you have all the options and you can also setup most other distros with extensive systems of “save points” to revert problematic changes anyway.

    Things to not consider:

    • ignore the answers speaking about “it provides WINE for running windows stuff” or “it comes with NVIDIA drivers” because they basically all do (minus the already mentioned combination of running cutting edge hardware with very slow updating distros - that’s not a good idea). At the worst it usually requires clicking some “Yes, I don’t insist on open source stuff exclusively but will also to use proprietary drivers if available” checkbox in the installer.
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    Bazzite for a first try. If you never hit a wall needing to make system tweaks, stick to it in the long term. Otherwise, I’m really liking Fedora. KDE/Gnome is personal choice.

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    I will be the black sheep that strongly recommend against Mint. I have had more hardware compatibility problems trying to run Mint than any other distro. This is anecdotal, but consistent enough that I would make bets on it. Secondly, I hate Cinnamon, the default desktop environment. There are better choices.

    Instead, I’ll suggest Fedora KDE. It’s rock solid, reliable, and the KDE Plasma desktop is the best currently available whether you leave it stock or customize it.

    If you want to try things out, set up a spare thumb drive with Ventoy, which will let you boot to any ISO you copy to it. Most distros have “live” versions that you can boot to from the thumb drive and try out before installing. That said, most linux distros install in 5 minutes, so don’t be afraid to try anything and everything you’re curious about.

    Also, avoid Cachy or other Arch based distros for now. They are great, but a far more hands-on. Something for the future, when you are more comfortable with linux in general.

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      Fedora is a good option. I’m surprised to hear about hardware incompatibilities with Mint, though. Do you have obscure or bleeding-edge hardware?

      I’ll +1 the Ventoy suggestion. Lets you try lots of things easily. Try at least Fedora KDE, Ubuntu, and Mint. Go with whichever feels good to you when you try them out.

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        You don’t really need to be bleeding edge to have some hardware issues or Cinnamon Mint. Their wayland transition is still ongoing so HDR, variable refresh rate, fractional scaling and maybe some bugs for specific hardware might be present. X11 has also seen a lot less love recently after the major distros stopped actively supporting it.

        KDE has nailed the Wayland transition so moving to Fedora KDE would have fixed Wayland/X11 bugs.

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          I guess I would classify features like variable refresh rates and fractional scaling as “advanced”, but that’s fair. I moved from Cinnamon to Gnome because wayland was working better for me, so fair point. I imagine it won’t be too long before Cinnamon catches up, though.

          For now, I’m just using a handful of extensions to make Gnome feel more like Cinnamon. Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of KDE, but that’s just me.

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          Quite frankly Linux mint and Cinnamon by extension is X11 software and I dont expect the transition to be completed anytime in the foreseeable future let alone acturally start for users. Even with their incredibly slow adoption of Wayland im shocked they’re going this fast, I thought they would wait another several years. Linux Mint is stable software and they’re significantly less willing to make any changes than even Debian.

          (Btw its just testing atm, nothing exists for users yet)

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      Finally someone else said it.

      Just adding that since they game Bazzite is maybe the better option but still fedora based.

      But I’ve too seen compatibility issues recently with Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros, but not really with Debian based ones (yes, even though Ubuntu is based on Debian). I don’t know why, but even MX has given me less troubles recently than Mint (not that I’d recommend base MX though - I just heavily customized it so that it’s elderly friendly, so people who basically barely can use a browser and have poor eyesight).

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      Its not that bad to start with arch it’s not as hard as it used to be. I started with endeavourOS approximately a year ago and most things just work out of the box and you don’t need to do much and honestly i find it easier than having to navigate layers of abstractions.

      Most of my time went into configuring stuff like hyprland, nvim and other stuff and arch just worked.

      I came with 0 linux knowledge, the only terminal commands i knew were cd and ls and if not for arch I don’t think I would have been hooked on linux. That being said, I get it and sometimes it is frustrating but just putting it out there that it’s doable.

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        I started with EndeavourOS also (earlier this year) and it has been amazing. Also only little bit of Linux knowledge beforehand. Honestly think using a terminal centric distro is helpful for learning.

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      I moved an older relative to Mint and I regret it. Weird lagging and display server crashes sometimes, probably because of X11. Plus it’s release cycle is very slow, so old packages. Ubuntu is far from my favorite distro, but at least it uses a DE with first class Wayland support.

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      I have Mint on the 2014 Mac mini I use as a media and Home Assistant server. It was my first dabble with Linux, and I now wish it used Plasma instead of Cinnamon. My other Linux machines are running Kubuntu with Plasma, and they’re great, so logging into Cinnamon always feels like a step backwards somehow.

      I could try changing the DE on it, but I’m not massively proficient, and don’t want to have to set everything back up again if I fuck it up.

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        Mint doesn’t officially support KDE and there are known issues if you do it yourself. You’d be better off switching distros if you like that desktop. Pure Debian + KDE might be a more comfortable move in that situation.

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          Yeah, which is part of what’s stopping me. I can’t really be bothered to spend the time putting everything back as it should be if I bugger it up. Which I will.

          So for now it works and it works very well. And I guess I’ll leave it that way.

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      Also, avoid Cachy or other Arch based distros for now. They are great, but a far more hands-on. Something for the future, when you are more comfortable with linux in general.

      Yeah, I recently switched from Mint to EndeavourOS which is Arch, and it breaks way more often. But I must admit, it’s more stable than Debian was 15 years ago, so I assume that Linux is getting friendlier in general

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    Aurora, it’s the desktop version of massively popular Bazzite (which targets gaming). That means you’ll find tons of up to date tutorials online (Bazzite tutorials are usually applicable unless they are about the few features Bazzite and Aurora diverge specifically).

    I explicitly advise against Ubuntu and Mint for the reasons I outlined here. Ubuntu and Mint have the added downside that almost none of the guides you’ll find about SteamOS will work: Different desktop, different philosophy.

    People need to realize that since the success of Steam Deck the “old classics” of newbie recommendations are out of the window and what helps these users the most is a Linux distribution as close as possible to SteamOS but SteamOS is not available for random PCs, so Bazzite/Aurora are currently the way to go. Personally I like Fedora KDE but I shifted my stance since the linked post and trying out Aurora.

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        Bazzite is great on desktop

        Absolutely but people not interested in autolaunching Steam and other preinstalled launchers can use Aurora which is just the workstation flavor by the same people.

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          Yeah my Bazzite definitely doesn’t auto launch Steam. I think that might be an option during setup?

          Been using it for over a year now. Never auto launched into Steam once.

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            Yeah my Bazzite definitely doesn’t auto launch Steam. I think that might be an option during setup?

            I installed it in a VM and after installation Steam launched. Didn’t check if that persists after several reboots. Why would I?

            Then I tried Aurora and with the exception of a Terminal app in Plasma’s quick launch panel and no gaming launchers installed, it’s pretty much the same thing, so might just as well recommend Aurora instead of Bazzite if the person in question doesn’t care much about gaming. It’s the workstation variant of Universal Blue.

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              see? another person has the same result

              you just got ratioed!

              i tell you what bazzite does do. it installs a bunch of DE extensions that are not useful. they are very easy to disable

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              I don’t know, bud, I’m just saying that it is not the default and has not happened to me once in the past year, and one or two fresh installs.

              It’s literally just KDE

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            it doesn’t auto launch anything on desktop

            I installed Bazzite just last weekend and I was definitively greeted by a Steam client login window right after logging into SDDM. No idea what you’re talking about.

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              i have to click the steam icon to launch steam

              i have no idea what you’re doing wrong on your desktop

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      Mint loaded Steam via the package manager and it worked out of the box for me. There have been some games I had to try different versions of Proton with, but I have never found that to be not true for some games.

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      Immutable distros aren’t really that great yet due to the way they force certain things down one’s throat. I’d say I’d recommend one if I were in a mental asylum for a long time, but that’s just me.

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        Wow, that seems like a rather hostile take on the matter if I’ve ever seen one. But I feel like you might be conflating stuff OR hurt yourself while trying to force your way on an “immutable” distro.

        After learning the ropes on how to install and manage software, there’s not really much to Bazzite. Unless you somehow happen to be dealing with one of the ever-so-rare-becoming edge-cases it can’t deal with.

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          My stepfather had a bad experience with one of them, and I think he’s currently using Fedora (with Wayland), but that’s at least better than whatever that distro was (I think it might have been Bluefin or something like that, a Fedora Immutable derivative).

          That’s why I’m currently against immutable distros as of right now.

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            Interesting. Thanks for the clarification! It would have been even more helpful if you could recall more details about the bad experience. Thanks in advance!

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      Just FYI in case you don’t know - SteamOS has changed and is now based on Arch, which means Bazzite is still fundamentally different.

      I personally went with Garuda Linux for two reasons:

      1. SteamOS is Arch based (so is Garuda)
      2. When researching issues, 80% of the time you’ll end up on the Arch Wiki anyway. Might as well use the actual thing.

      Bazzite is probably easier to use for newbies (immutable, relatively stable update windows), but in terms of “I found a guide for SteamOS online on how to get game X working”, Garuda will be much better. Also, Garuda devs included their Rani app, which helps the user take care of the OS, handling a lot of the maintenance.

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        Just FYI in case you don’t know - SteamOS has changed and is now based on Arch, which means Bazzite is still fundamentally different.

        Both are immutable distributions, meaning software installation via Flatpak and Distrobox is exactly the same.

        System-level differences are mostly irrelevant which is a fundamentally different approach from Ubuntu, Mint, etc. where users are expected to juggle with PPAs to get newer drivers on their ancient Ubuntu LTS base.

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    Seems like Mint is the consensus and I don’t disagree. Just some things to consider when choosing:

    1. Desktop Environment/Window Manager (DE/WM) this is the software responsible for displaying your desktop and managing the opening and closing of graphical windows. Window managers are very bare-bones and might offer an experience significantly different than Windows. (See tiling WMs). Desktop environments do the same and more, and are often bundled with launchers and useful default programs like terminals and editors.

    2. Package manager. Package managers are responsible for managing your installed software. There are a variety of options, and distros typically will choose one as their default. Pacman for Arch, Aptitude for Debian, RPM for RedHat, and others. These are mostly interchangeable for the end user, but each has slightly different commands and frontends. So just be aware there will be a bit of an extra learning curve moving from a distro that uses one to a distro that uses another.

    3. Release cycle. Different distros offer different styles of releasing updates. Ubuntu and Debian periodically release updates in a cycle with major and minor releases. Some releases are marked for long term support and others marked as short term. Upgrading releases has been hit or miss for me, so I prefer rolling release distros. These distros don’t distinguish major releases and simply upgrade in place. Each has it’s own advantages, just be mindful of how often you will have to upgrade.

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      Package manager. Package managers are responsible for managing your installed software. There are a variety of options, and distros typically will choose one as their default. Pacman for Arch, Aptitude for Debian, RPM for RedHat, and others. These are mostly interchangeable for the end user, but each has slightly different commands and frontends. So just be aware there will be a bit of an extra learning curve moving from a distro that uses one to a distro that uses another.

      RedHat uses dnf, RPM is the package format.

      Apt sucks, pacman is ok, dnf is the best, history and rollback are great.

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        Good catch on Redhat. That is a family I’ve never used. Out of the ones I’ve used Pacman was my favorite, but Nix has been pretty good to me so far as well. I’ll have to try out a dnf system next

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      Mint is also one of the biggest distros which is a factor in getting help. Any problem you may have, chances are, somebody already posted the solution.

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        I should really give mint a try. I like Ubuntu for both of these reasons, even if it does have snaps.

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      I agree, for a new user everything including installing nvidia drivers is in a GUI. And if you run into issue due to the size of both Mint and its base Ubuntu, searching for the problems usually results in a solution.

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      I have been using Mint for a long while now, and I’ve been very happy with it. Can’t say I’ve felt the need to try anything else…

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    Mint or Fedora. You’ll get tons of responses, and none of them are wrong, because no one can tell you what’s best for you, but those are the most popular choices among newbies, and they are very user friendly and approachable.

    The best advice I can give you is try a bunch of different ones and see which one you like best. They’re free and easy to reinstall if you end up liking one over another.

    Best of luck and I hope you find one that you truly love. :)

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      I started and ended with mint. Donknow about video editing, but it just worked. It’s like everything windows p should have been. No bs, easy interface, easy to fix. Do it

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    Do you know anyone in real life that has some experience with Linux, and is willing to help you out with it? If yes, use the same distribution (distro, or “OS”) as they do.

    If not, as others said, Mint is a good start.

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      I use KDE neon, I’d never recommend it to my friends though because quirks pop up every now and then and disappear after a couple of weeks.

      I’d tell them to use Kubuntu which is just much more stable and is the same thing without quirks.

      I considering moving to Hyperland on Arch which I’d recommend even less.

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        I shifted from Neon to Kubuntu on my work machine. Figured that Neon was a good shout because it’s the official KDE distro, only to later discover that KDE now consider it to be end of life, and are working on a replacement.

        Kubuntu is basically the same (from my perspective), but has continuing support.

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        Even then, I think “check nearby people for what they use” shouldn’t be underestimated. Of course you wouldn’t tell them to use Neon itself, but if they’re using Kubuntu you’d probably be abler to help them than if they were to use, say, Mint, right?

        My point is, that people underestimate the power of offline help, and having acquaintances who know the system well enough to help you out. And that matters a lot when picking your starting distro.

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    Mint is popular for beginners. I went with Debian KDE because I wanted something a little more minimalistic and boring. Fedora and OpenSUSE are also good options.

    If you want to stick with a Windows-like desktop, pick a KDE distro over GNOME.

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      If you want to stick with a Windows-like desktop, pick a KDE distro over GNOME.

      I like KDE Plasma, too. Thankfully, most desktop distros have it in their repositories, so even if they use GNOME or some other desktop by default, you can install and switch to KDE after the initial OS install. I’m pretty sure this includes Linux Mint.

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        Switching desktop environments can be tricky, it’s better to do a clean install - especially for dotfiles which can cause bugs, and get the distro spin that you want from the get-go.

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          I’ve never had logging in with a different desktop environment cause problems. (And I wouldn’t expect to. The desktop session selector on the login screen is there for a reason, after all.) Your comment makes me wonder what desktops you tried that stepped on each other, and what bugs you’re referring to.

          In any case, if I had an experience like what you describe, I would simply re-create my user account and its home directory. Going through a whole OS install as you suggest would burn a lot more time with no advantage, which doesn’t seem “better” to me. To each their own, I guess.

          Remember as well that your “distro spin” approach is only possible if such a spin exists. Example: If someone wants Linux Mint for its beginner-friendly community support, but also wants to try KDE Plasma, they can. But they’re going to have to install Plasma after the base OS, and switch.

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            https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=297558. this is just the first thing that came up, i’m sure there are hundreds of similar bugs. bottom line is when you install two things next to each other that aren’t being actively tested together, you’re bound to run into issues.

            My recommendation is that if there are no spin with your favorite DE, you simply do not use that distribution as it’s not being tested against.

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              Sorry you had bad luck there.

              My recommendation is that if there are no spin with your favorite DE, you simply do not use that distribution

              I guess that’s one way to be sure, but to me it seems excessively limiting. I have switched desktops on Debian-based distros, and the only tidying up I remember being needed was removal of the old desktop’s packages (to de-clutter my application menus) and a reboot (to launch the new display manager).

              My recommendation to a new user would be to try whatever distro/desktop combo is appealing, and if it doesn’t work out, either do some troubleshooting or just move on to another one. It might not be a path as well tread as the distro’s default, but it might work fine. You’ll never know if you don’t try.

              as it’s not being tested against.

              That’s untrue in at least some cases. Of course, different distros have different policies and people maintaining their desktop packages, so YMMV.

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                Downstream distros are a bit of a special case, as they don’t really test these packages so much as inherit them from upstream, so what you’re actually getting is ubuntu’s and debian’s version of GNOME in Mint for example. If you’re going to do that, I’d just cut out the middleman and go upstream here as Mint isn’t bringing anything of value, worse it’s just another vector for untested bugs.

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    editing videos

    What program will you use?

    I have heard that DaVinci resolve is very hard to set up. as for Kdenlive, I have used it few times, and it felt very clunky.

    I would go with mint if you have older hardware and bazzite if you have new hardware (especially nvidia graphics card). If you really want windows-like layout check zorin OS.

    for actuall advice: I would try a bunch of them and stick with one where video editing works.

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      I have heard that DaVinci resolve is very hard to set up.

      On Bazzite (and probably the other ublue distros as well), you can run ujust install-resolve on the terminal, and that’s it, you’re good to go

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    Go with Mint until you learn more about how Linux filesystems work and then you can go wherever you feel comfortable. Mint just has a really easy install.

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      What is there to learn about Linux filesystems? How is it different from a Windows filesystem, from the perspective of an average user?

      Lesson one: files Lesson two: folders Here’s your diploma.

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        Linux filesystems exam time:


        section A basics


        1. what does CoW stand for?

        2. evaluate through pros and cons which you personally would pick: Btrfs, ZFS, F2FS, bcachefs, OverlayFS, aufs, Nilfs2, JFFS2, UBIFS


        section B btefs


        1. what exactly happens when running this command, including how qgroups, compression, and recursion interact?
        btrfs balance start -dusage=5 -musage=20 -c zstd \
            --bg /srv/vms && \
        btrfs qgroup limit 50G /srv/vms/guests/win10
        
        1. explain the effect of the following command on device allocation, RAID reshaping, and metadsta distribution:
        btrfs device add -f /dev/nvme2n1 /home && \
        btrfs balance start -mconvert=raid1 -dconvert=raid1 -sconvert=dup /home
        
        1. describe what this snapshotting pipeline does, including send stream structure, parent selection, and how receive-side overwrites are handled:
        btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /opt/app /opt/.snaps/auto-$(date +%s) && \
        btrfs send -c -p /opt/.snaps/last-full \
            /opt/.snaps/auto-$(date +%s) \
            | ssh backup 'btrfs receive -f /backup/opt/incoming'
        
        1. what actions occur on the filesystem when this defrag call is executed, especially regarding extent sharing and how compression interacts?
        btrfs filesystem defrag -r -v -czstd:15 \
            /var/lib/docker/overlay2
        
        1. analyze subvolume management sequence, including how default-subvolume selection influences mount behavior:
        btrfs subvolume delete /mnt/root/@old && \
        btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /mnt/root/@clean /mnt/root/@ && \
        btrfs subvolume set-default 256 /mnt/root
        

        section C zfs


        […]

        /s

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          That’s for sysadmins.

          These days I don’t even care what fs I use, I just let the distro choose its default, I simply make sure encryption is enabled.

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            It’s really touching that you consider me to be a sysadmin, because I use Linux and know how my fs works. I’m actually kinda proud of myself. My arch install has been working for many years.

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                  I used to use arch btw, but then I grew old and moved to Fedora. Then I saw the light and installed Bazzite on everything, even my coffe machine. It’s got RGB now.
                  You should install Bazzite, save your soul.

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          Answer for all questions: the average user doesn’t care, won’t run any of those, won’t know what fs is on their system because they will choose the default what the installer suggests. Same as they have no idea about all the ntfs or exfat details of their windows system.

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          “What’s a mount point? I just click on the disk icon on my desktop, it shows up when I plug in the USB thingy.”

          - Average user

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            I’ve had to do it a bit on Mint. I have a couple of programs that only come as AppImages and need to be redownloaded everytime there is an uppdate, which means I have to set the rights again. It’s also been a thing when setting up qbittorrent and jellyfin.

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    This question is probably as old as Linux itself. While many (me included) do not like Ubuntu anymore, I still think its a good operating system for newcomers to Linux. Not at last because of the community it has. Ubuntu is only by those dislike who are long enough in this game. There are also different variants with different user interfaces and such (like Kubuntu).