I’m new as in this is my first day using lemmy. I don’t know anything about lemmy etiquette and don’t want to do anything bad
thanks and have an amazing day! also plz be kind :D
Average user age is slightly more older here.
The three most common groups are .world(liberals), .ml(socialists), and .blahaj(uwu)
Y’all motherfuckers forgetting about us sh.it.heads over here smh
If you follow these, you’ll be fine:
Don’t hate on minorities
Don’t post AI content outside of communities made for it
Don’t insert yourself into communities where you don’t belong, eg:- Don’t comment “As a man, …” in WomensStuff
- Don’t debate the validity of trans folks on Blahaj
- Don’t criticize China in any way on lemmy.ml
DO NOT post anything negative about Linux (unless you’re comparing it to BSD, of course)
Sometimes it’s a bit harder not to offend than on reddit, because posts may hit your front page from an instance that was created as a safe space for a group you’re not part of, and they may react harshly to you budding in.
easier to offend
Also because marginalized people are allowed here. Will be a great lesson in not being a dick!
being marginalized and being offended by stupid shit have nothing to do with one another.
plenty of marginalized people have senses of humor and are thick skinned. it’s mostly the privileged over educated types who get offended by everything and on behave of everyone.
More referring to the fact that being personally attacked is more likely to offend most people than bigotry against a third party. Not enough people say pointlessly cruel things about men or white people as classes.
Not enough people say pointlessly cruel things about men or white people as classes.
Can we aim upwards instead of to a shithole?
too many people say pointlessly cruel things about non-men or non-white
Thank you~!
Both are true!
You can criticize China, there’s just good ways and bad ways of doing that. Overwhelmingly, “critique” just means dogmatically repeating red scare-style nonsense seeing China as an enemy, and not genuine critique.
I was banned for a meme comparing old cars to modern ones, probably because it said the modern cars are full of computers made in China.
Modlog link?
If I had a nickel for every time someone lied about why (or even whether) they were banned, I’d have like a bunch of nickles.
Probably could even buy something with those.
I’d add that you should be able to criticize anything you want on Lemmy. Sometimes you are right and the whole world is wrong. Especially if some Chinese Linux distro messed up your laptop. /s
You can post whatever you want on Lemmy without any moderation, just fire up your own instance.
No one will stop you and no one can ban you. But no one is forced to stay federated with you, or allow your content on their servers, either.amen.
Don’t criticize China in any way on lemmy.ml
Note that actual serious criticism of China is fine. If you want to critise their support of the Khmer Rouge, or their inaction on Palestine, or things like that, no one will mind. It’s just when all you’re doing is mindlessly reciting vacuous anti-China jingoism that you run into trouble.
Linux is gay (praise)
I use Arch, by the way.
The only reason I don’t is that I’m too stupid to setup BTRFS snapshots and full disk encryption with LVM on it.
WomensStuff
If you’re not a woman, it’s likely best to block (as in - ignore) that channel, so you don’t participate by a mistake. The rules there forbid non-female participation.
Don’t criticize China in any way on lemmy.ml
I get 50/50 upvote/downvote ratio for that, so no. Some of the users are unhinged though on “USA bad so China is good”.
He called the women Females!
Please do not drag the same tired jokes over from reddit (e.g. broken arms). Stick around long enough to learn Lemmy’s tired jokes.
Beans, how not to poop for 5 days, ed Sheeran, and I use arch btw? I’m sure I missed a bunch, too.
How not to poop for 5 days was the first fediverse legend I got to personally witness, good times
Jeans
Don’t forget moths!
And Stör!
Make sure to brush up on your fern reproduction cycle as well
How often would you like to hear about Beef Stroganoff?
AI generated videos of presidentential candidates playing minecraft.
You mean we could have seen these memes before?
The narwhal bacons at midnight.
I’ll fucking bake your narwhal in a microwave at midnight, son
Le Epic bacon post, good sir!
Me too! I have been browsing for a month or two and Reddit finally had enough of my “violent rhetoric”. This is like my second post.
So what I am gathering is that here I CAN say that I believe that the only solution to capitalism is a revolution so violent and thorough that Mao would be uncomfortable?
Or nah?
Depends on the instance, but generally revolutionary socialism is supported.
Hello, and welcone to Lemmy. Glad you made it, here’s my overall advice:
- No need to get hung up over a few early downvotes on your comment that might cause its score to go negative for a bit. People can be strongly opinionated here. Not everyone agrees with me on this, but I do appreciate people willing to post honestly held unpopular opinions and play a reasonable devil’s advocate in threads. (This is different than just being a contrarian.)
- For your own and everyone’s benefit, try to engage in thoughtful, well reasoned and good faith discussion with empathy for others where it’s due. If you feel like a chain of replies is going nowhere good, there’s no shame in walking away from it.
- Report and block the jerks, trolls and spammers you might encounter like on any forum-like site. Don’t let them spoil your experience when most people here are respectful.
Enjoy your time here!
One thing to note is more often people here reply with genuine comments and in good faith. There is also a lack of clever snarky comments and baiting due to the lack of karma system.
And the lack of karma also leads to more comments, as well. I liken lemmy to what the internet used to be like, where conversations among strangers happened regularly. It’s very rewarding and wholesome. Definitely not the “antisocial media” that reddit prides itself on.
I do snark for the art, and will live and die by it.
Isn’t the up / downvote just like karma?
Karma on reddit tracks the accumulated likes and dislikes a user has gotten on all of their posts. Lemmy does not have a number like that.
Edit: What this means in practice is that on Reddit there are some users who make a lot of low-effort posts to get that karma number to go up and get a sense of accomplishment from that (even when they get a negative reputation among the other users), whereas on Lemmy that’s not really a thing. Lemmy has power-users that become well-known, but they’re more well-liked because they aim to gain actual reputation instead of just farming a karma number.
We could talli up our points but I much prefer comments under my posts the little number go up dopamine
Yes, but there’s no gating based on it so it doesn’t mean anything and you can turn it off.
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No they don’t. You’re lying and you know you’re lying. You’re just trying to suck up to the thread so you can get more karma. No one at Lemmy does that.
“lOok aT Me, i kNoW leMmY eTiQueTte. More oFteN PeoPle heRe rEply wiTH gEnuIne ComMenTs aNd In gOOd fAiTh.” You’re so full of it. Watch this, my comment will recieve more upvotes than you
receive*
Right, that’s what I meant (BTW, I’m being sarcastic so I don’t mean it)
bro forgot to add the /s
I mean, yes and no. Most of the userbase is that way. But there are some users (and instances) that tend to be massive pains in the ass. So build and curate your blocklist too.
Do NOT mention Nicole.
Wait, shi-
Each instance has its own vibe. You joined .ml, just a fair warning that a few instances and a chunk of Lemmy users have defederated/blocked it, so you may miss out on some content. Otherwise, pretty chill for the most part.
I’m like OP from a few months ago. I joined ML because it was easy and sorta anonymous. What’s the story on ML? Who defederated? What am I missing?
It’s the devs’ test instance.
The devs are Marxist-Leninists. They’re the admins of the instance. Therefore the instance has nuanced-to-positive views on Actually Existing Socialist (AES) states, and allows for criticism of Democrats from the left.
It’s been defederated by instances whose admins aren’t wiling to critically examine their lifetime of capitalist programming and are accustomed to Reddit’s universal condemnation of AES states.
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For anyone reading this who might be scratching their head as to what “tankie” means, you can find descrriptions of its history a number of places, but for all intents and purposes here on the fediverse, it simply refers to the people who have the most education in history and socioeconomics. Since reality is in direct contradiction with most of the prevailing narratives pushed by the powerful beneficiaries of the dominant systems (the most obvious of these systems being capitalism), there will always be a contingent of true believers in the dominant narrative who are shocked to find that there are others who openly reject those narratives. The former will clutch their pearls, aghast that the propaganda they’ve believed all their lives is being questioned by these… these… muckrakers! And so a pejorative is used (hence the word “tankies”) to otherize and sequester the individuals best able to challenge those narratives, individuals whose presence tends to trigger the uncomfortable feeling of cognitive dissonance in those who aren’t yet ready or able to put their beliefs to honest questioning.
In short, if you have no problem with seeing and reading perspectives that might make you question your own perspective, then you should have no problem with the “tankies.” And as for those who would actively defederate from those vile tankie instances so as to avoid having to confront even the possibility that their own beliefs are riddled throughout with deep misconceptions, well that should tell you something about the priorities of those tankie-fearing communities.
Thank you friend. That is the most succinct explaination of ‘tankies’ I ever read.
The former will clutch their pearls, aghast that the propaganda they’ve believed all their lives is being questioned by these… these… muckrakers
Well, to be fair, you should add that this definition matches also crazies on hexbear or ml who will defend EVERYTHING done by AES or Russia or China, because since Europe and USA are bad, then surely not those are always good.
(Population of crazies is significantly smaller than 100%, but they tend to be remembered by the people throwing “tankies” at them).
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“Tankie” is a strawman. It’s a pejorative for Marxists and anti-imperialists, filled with falsehoods and contradictions. The purpose of calling someone a “tankie” is to turn them into this strawman in the eyes of onlookers, it terminates the conversation. An example of this is you claiming so-called “tankies” think Russia is still a socialist country governed by a communist party, which is absurd. Russia does maintain strong ties to socialist countries like China, does oppose the western Empire, and does have rising socialist sentiment in the broader population, but absolutely isn’t socialist.
The PRC is socialist, though. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes are in control of the state. Huge state owned industries are the backbone of the economy, while mixed forms of ownership make up the small and medium firms. Socialism isn’t the absence of private property, even under Mao and the Gang of Four there were still large numbers of private firms.
As for what you call “authoritarianism,” what we communists support is the working class using state authority against capitalists. Authority should be used by the working classes. This confusion of yours is why you misunderstand China. The PRC is by no means “late stage capitalist,” rather it’s relatively early in socialist development:
All in all, I suggest you listen more to these so-called “tankies,” rather than letting your imagination run wild.
i probably would have supported sending tanks into hungary at the time, with the information available to british communists
Socialism isn’t the absence of private property
Heh.
It’s one of those things where if we treat socialism as something wholly different from all previous modes of production, or as just the next mode of production. No socialist state has ever had a pure economy, yet they’ve all delivered consistent results entirely different from capitalist economies.
131·17 hours agoShow me someone claiming modern day Russia is communist. I usually do not actually see this.
I’ve never seen it once. People love making stuff up apparently. Like “Ultra-mega-hyper-super-authoritarianism!”
What is an example of an extant state that isn’t “ultraauthoritarian” in your view?
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Notice that they asked for an example and couldn’t provide one.
more due to the incompetence of the governing fascists than to lack of intent.
Oh ok, so the fascist is governing the US are well intentioned and want democracy and freedom, they just aren’t competent enough to achieve it. All of the USs enemies, though, are just evil.
And you call other people ultra-nationalist.
Any one with a somewhat working democracy, and decent social freedoms.
What is an example?
It’s not due to incompetence. The US has never been a democracy by design. In fact, it’s working as intended. Previously:
The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
They’re pro-authoritarianism
At this point you might as well just say that they’re “pro-badguyism”, because you’re operating on the level of Saturday morning cartoon logic where villains are evil for evils sake. Like seriously: “They just clumsily try to disguise themselves as being communists, but actually they just love evil!”? Are you listening to yourself?
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~90% of so called tankies are bots, disinformation agents, or trolls.
Prove it, McCarthy.
~90% of so called tankies are bots, disinformation agents, or trolls. These are the ones who try to disguise themselves as communists, and making a rather poor job of it.
Bullshit. Find me one Lemmy admin who agrees with you. The only people who believe it are non-admins with Russiagate derangement syndrome.
- IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Matt Taibbi: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud
- Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty
- Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe.
The rest genuinely believe they are communists, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Okay, then present your overwhelming mountain of evidence, senator McCarthy.
Literally no one fucking claims that Russia is communist. You’re just here to spout utter bullshit. GTFO.
a bot or other disinformation agent pretending to be one
Are people who claim to be leftists but turn out to be full blown NeoMcCarthyists tankies?
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So you’re not a tankie because you don’t call yourself a communist?
What is it that you think would motivate a lower-class Westerner to sympathize with the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China?
Having nothing better to do?
Which major instances defed .ml?
Using this tool https://federation-checker.vercel.app/
I don’t recognise any of the instances that are blocking .ml
Holy shit! That’s why a lot of my old communities haven’t been subscribed to yet.
From a really sad lemm.ee refugee. I miss that instance.
Any suggestions of chill instances just for tech, games and comics?
discuss.tchncs.de is tech-focused :) It seems like there are no communities for games and comics yet though.
Aren’t we all migrated to .zip?
Hey, do you have a channel or blog on theology? Your username sounds familiar to me.
No i don’t, sorry
Yes we are!
Where’s that damn memo?
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50501.chat blocked lemmy.ml, but who cares
Each instance has its own vibe. You joined [Any Lemmy instance, just a fair warning that a few instances and a chunk of Lemmy users have defederated/blocked it, so you may miss out on some content. Otherwise, pretty chill for the most part.
You can replace .ml with any Lemmy instance. The most Lemmy thing remains all the instance tribalism.
Yes, but a new user needs to know the instance they join has pros and cons. Like another user stated, they joined .ml after lemm.ee closed and didn’t know why several communities they had subscribed to weren’t showing up.
Let’s be real for a second, lemmygrad, .ml and. hexbear are well known for blocking and being blocked on Lemmy. Users should know Lemmy isnt like reddit where each user can potentially see 100% of content, it’s dependent on your instance.
Lemmygrad an Hexbear sure. Nobody will recommend those as servers to start off.
.ml however is a pretty general server which is federated very broadly. It’s not a bad place to start off.
The lemmy instance you choose (for example, you chose .ml) to join will have its own tone, flavor, rules, politics. You will find instances that are left, right, and center. Additionally you will find some that are VERY far-left or VERY far-right. If you are finding the tone for the lemmy community (equivalent of reddit subreddit) different that your position, it may be because its hosted and moderated on an instance with that particular bend.
You may also experience some judgment from others because of the instance you are coming from as it can communicate some of your positional bias. Some users have chosen to relocate to other lemmy instances once they get an understanding of what ideas live where.
All of that said, while lemmy and the fediverse has a much smaller userbase than Reddit, it is so much nicer here. My last post to reddit was over 2 years ago, and every post I hear about how bad it is getting over there confirms this is the better place here.
Maybe the largest difference for me is how the federated nature changes the social dynamics. For instance, people from Instance X don’t like those from Instance Y, or may even ban them.
This was prevalent on Reddit, buuuut banning can be instance or node based compared to subreddit.
I likely have some opinions or takes I wouldn’t post on lemmy.ml because lemmy.ml has a particular bent. I agree with a lot of it, but I wouldn’t want to offend with what doesn’t align or would get me banned. The ban cascades further out, and how servers interact as wholes with one another in terms of federation is similar.
The social platform mechanics are also different. Upvote has a different impact compared to Reddit (I don’t fully remember the specifics). I think saving has its own relevancy or something?
It’s mostly the same though.
corporate koolaid frequently masquerades as ‘knowledge’, and is parroted rather than built up from first principles.
compared to reddit, an average lemmy user would tend more towards the latter than the former.
be on the lookout for the cognitive dissonance which can precede the realisation you’ve been parroting corporate propaganda. it’s ok, it happens to all of us, but the sooner we realise the better for everyone.
corporate propaganda
We all swim in the sea of ideas that is our culture. Many people for many reasons seek to make certain ideas the dominant ones.
As long as you have irrational levels of hate and vitriol for AI, windows, epic games, and democrats, you should be fine.
It also helps if you’ve named any of your sex toys things like “Linus” or “Gabe” and you regularly scream their names during orgasm but that’s optional.
Lot of people seem to be acting like none of this is true. Clearly we aren’t on the same parts of lemmy.
God this is the truest comment I have ever seen on lemmy
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For context here we hate the democrats because they’re fascists just like the republicans, not because we’re trumpers
This post is on ml, I figured that would be clear within maybe 10-15 seconds of opening the comment section of any thread regardless of topic 😜
Although I do think lemmy on the whole hates democrats more than republicans. Like the republicans are subhuman mole creatures who just need love to stop being evil while the democrats are soulless people who know what good is and think they’re good but they aren’t.
Republicans tell me to my face that they want to destroy me and the people I love
Democrats think I’m too stupid to notice that they’re also trying to destroy us, and that just pisses me off
So you agree, you do hate them more?
Oh big time, but I see dumbass libs seeing us hate on the democrats and immediately calling us trumpers because their last remaining neuron can only manage that much
So I was just adding the context that we hate all capitalist parties
The democrats are easier to hate because they act like their your friends, at least the republicans are just full mask off and will say you’re a fucking subhuman. For reference, I think they’re both abhorent, just that republicans don’t lie to you about it.
Don’t forget you also need to hate Linus of Tech Tips fame.
Oh true, when you scream Linus’ name out in your bed, make sure you add an addendum of “no not that one he’s an asshole, I mean the Linus who isn’t an asshole”
The lemmings outing themselves with the -7 on your comment. Big butt hurt.
Be trans, use arch, and also be a communist (not the naive, idealistic kind, but the kind that defends Putin and modern day Russia)
If you haven’t already then you need to switch to Linux
this, but unironically.
Then keep reminding everyone you use Arch.
But only some distros should be used !
Arch
Debian
Mint
NixOSDid I miss any?
I stand corrected, lol.
It took me like 5 years before I figured out Miley Cirus, Hannah Montana, and Taylor Swift were three different people.
Oh, I might have upvoted this comment, but it’s only so I can come back with my army of Swifties,.Ciruses and Montanas to downvote you to the shadow realm.
/s that was awesome
Reserved for .blahaj
Peak
Qubes OS
only a few hundred
I’m currently running KDE Linux and I must admit I like it ! The immutable system feels weird but kinda safe. But the lack of Midnight Commander is a shame ! And I guess the not working transparency in yakuake is due to it being coded for X11.
“Some people say Ubuntu is for beginners because they like to feel superior. I also say Ubuntu is for beginners because I like to feel superior” - Programmers Are Human
Don’t forget GrapheneOS and Jellyfin! Anything else you can think of? It’ll be a lot easier if they can convert everything in one go.
Take advice from Detective Frank Drebin
“Like a blindman at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through”
“Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to keep on my toes”
“I’m sure we can handle this situation maturely, just like the responsible adults that we are. Isn’t that right, Mr. Poopy Pants?”
Nice beaver.
It’s smaller, but more personable. It’s full of neurodivergent, queer, and tech oriented people. It has its own inside jokes—you will want to read up on beans.
Overall, I have enjoyed the experience. Sometimes, I have been surprised when people can’t detect obvious jokes or sarcasm, but then I remember how many people here are neurodivergent and try to reply with something kind and straightforward so we’re on the same page.
People tend to be very leftist compared to the rest of the internet, so it’s good to remember that the opinions here are not always representative of the world at large.
A huge chunk of Lemmy is German, and that part of the community remains a total mystery to me because I don’t speak German. They seem cool from afar.
Which communities you are able to see depends pretty heavily on which instance is your home base—I’m with DB0, and we federate with pretty much everyone who isn’t doing something detestably illegal, but LemmyWorld is much more exclusive with who they federate with, so their users don’t see the same instances that I do. Pick a home instance that fits you best because it will matter a lot as you find communities.
You will see interactions between communists and anarchists. Try to remember that you don’t have to comment on everything you might disagree with.
Welcome to the Fediverse—we’re happy to have you.
Speaking of federation, do you know if there is a site that compares federation from instances. It would be nice to make a good decision before creating an account. Like I am on lemmy.ca and have no idea what you may see that i don’t. Personally I feel like lemmy.ca is good but have no comparison point other than lemmy.world I used a little.
And for OP if you browse on mobile I tried a lot of apps and settled on “Summit”. It’s great and stable.
